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What did Soetoro Know about Comey's Surveillance?
2017-09-20
[WSJ] This week CNN is reporting more details on the Obama Administration’s 2016 surveillance of people connected to the presidential campaign of the party out of power. It seems that once President Obama’s appointee to run the FBI, James Comey, had secured authorization for wiretapping, the bureau continued its surveillance into 2017. CNN reports:

US investigators wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret court orders before and after the election, sources tell CNN, an extraordinary step involving a high-ranking campaign official now at the center of the Russia meddling probe.

The government snooping continued into early this year, including a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Donald Trump.

Some of the intelligence collected includes communications that sparked concerns among investigators that Manafort had encouraged the Russians to help with the campaign, according to three sources familiar with the investigation. Two of these sources, however, cautioned that the evidence is not conclusive.

This means the wiretapping was authorized more than ten months ago and perhaps more than a year ago. It was presumably a tough decision for a judge to issue a secret warrant under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, enabling the administration to spy on someone connected with the presidential campaign of its political adversaries.

One would presumably only approve such an order if the request presented by the executive branch was highly compelling and likely to produce evidence that the subject of the wiretap was in fact working with Russia to disrupt U.S. elections. Roughly a year later, as the public still waits for such evidence, this column wonders how this judge is feeling now, especially now that CNN has reported that at least two of its three sources believe the resulting evidence is inconclusive.

One would also presume‐or at least hope‐that seeking to wiretap associates of the leader of the political opposition is not an everyday occurrence in any administration. At the very least, it seems highly unlikely that such a decision would be made by a mid-level official. CNN notes, "Such warrants require the approval of top Justice Department and FBI officials, and the FBI must provide the court with information showing suspicion that the subject of the warrant may be acting as an agent of a foreign power."

It seems reasonable for the public to know exactly which officials made this decision and who else they consulted or informed of their surveillance plans. Was the President briefed on the details of this investigation?
Posted by:Besoeker

#10  I suspect similar thinking is how we end up with all those "known wolf" jihadis.

When you see the phrase (as so often is the case) - "He was on the radar screen of the FBI and the Intelligence Community".... you can pretty well take it the bank. Nadal Hasan and the Tsarnaev bros. were no strangers.
Posted by: Besoeker   2017-09-20 16:35  

#9  If you were an IC collection manager, how quickly would you be to shut down their unique collection capabilty, without first attempting to exploit or guide it?

I suspect similar thinking is how we end up with all those "known wolf" jihadis.
Posted by: SteveS   2017-09-20 16:31  

#8  The Pakistani Awans had a capability that was technically illegal for the intelligence community (IC) to conduct.

But nothing wrong with monitoring a 'bent pipe'.
Posted by: Skidmark   2017-09-20 15:37  

#7  Arguably all both corrupt and incompetent. Were they not, we'd not hear of the Awans. At least not in the usual sense.
Posted by Pappy


Quite so.

Perhaps there was some difficulty in finding anyone willing to brief the incoming DCI on the project. Cleaning out old files, stuffing 'burn bags' etc. Just supposing....
Posted by: Besoeker   2017-09-20 13:42  

#6   Strangely, or not so, the Awan case appears to have come to light about the same time President Trump took office.

Considering the timeline: The 'players' involved, the intelligence communities' already established positions and close relationship with the WH, NSC, and Cabinet. The legislative bodies, agencies, Departments, et cetera.

Arguably all both corrupt and incompetent. Were they not, we'd not hear of the Awans. At least not in the usual sense.
Posted by: Pappy   2017-09-20 13:36  

#5  Butwhich dems? Or do you think he packet sniffed ALL the house traffic? Posted by Bright Pebbles

Properly conducted damage assessment investigations begin with the assumption of compromise and work backwards.

The Pakistani Awans had a capability that was technically illegal for the intelligence community (IC) to conduct. If you were an IC collection manager, how quickly would you be to shut down their unique collection capabilty, without first attempting to exploit or guide it? Might you want to monitor this capability for period of time, say 5 weeks, 5 months...... 10 years?

If the Awans were re-transmitting their collection back to Pakistan or elsewhere, and potentially receiving non-U.S. intelligence 'taskings'....might be something to keep an eye on and also attempt to exploit.

Strangely, or not so, the Awan case appears to have come to light about the same time President Trump took office.

Posted by: Besoeker   2017-09-20 12:43  

#4  But which dems?
Or do you think he packet sniffed ALL the house traffic?
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2017-09-20 12:30  

#3  Awan wiretapped for the Dems on behalf of who? Posted by Bright Pebbles

There, repaired it for you.
Posted by: Besoeker   2017-09-20 12:11  

#2  Awan wiretapped the Dems on behalf of who?
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2017-09-20 11:10  

#1  He was certainly briefed on it, perhaps by his own direction but did he "know" about it, probably doesn't have the capacity.

"Oh sure. Go do that thing you said."
Posted by: Skidmark   2017-09-20 10:21