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Macron suggests fines for parents of children caught rioting
2023-07-05
[AlAhram] French President Emmanuel Macron raised the idea of handing out quick-fire fines to the parents of children caught committing vandalism or robberies as part of the government's response to days of rioting.
[and jail for the 'children']
Of the nearly 4,000 people arrested since Friday during riots, more than 1,200 are minors, the justice ministry said.

Meeting coppers in Gay Paree on Monday evening, Macron thanked them for their work and floated the idea of speedy punishments for parents who fail to control their children.

"With the first crime, we need to find a way of sanctioning the families financially and easily," he said, according to comments reported by the Gay Pareeien newspaper.

The 45-year-old head of state said it would be "a sort of minimum price for the first screw up".

At the height of the rioting last Friday, Macron had appealed to parents to control their offspring. That followed the arrests of rioters as young as 12 during the breakdown in law and order sparked by police shooting a teenager dead in Gay Paree.

"It's the responsibility of parents to keep them at home," Macron had said. "It's not the state's job to act in their place."

French Justice Minister Eric Dupond-Moretti stressed the same message on Friday and outlined how parents were already legally liable for their children.

He said that parents could already be fined if they failed to accompany their children to a court appearance. They were also financially responsible for any damages awarded to a victim of a crime committed by a child.

Under legal guidance issued by the minister, prosecutors were also reminded of article 227-17 of the penal code, which already enables fines against parents. It authorises fines of up to 30,000 euros ($32,700) and prison terms of up to two years for parents who "fail to uphold, without a legitimate reason, their legal obligations to the extent of compromising the health, the security, the morality and the education of their child".
Another al Ahram article adds:
Since Nahel's death,
..more fully Nahel Merzouk, 17, the precocious French-Algerian known wolf who already had a rap sheet as long as your arm, dear Reader....
the riots have been led by "very young people", moving in small groups and relaying their actions on social networks.
Related:
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Nahel: 2023-07-03 France faces 5th night of rioting over teen's killing amid signs of subsiding violence
Nahel: 2023-07-03 Race rioters ram car into mayor's home in Paris suburb, injuring wife and child, then set house on fire
Posted by:trailing wife

#12  China had this quaint custom of "group punishment" and regicide was punished by executing the relatives (see nine familial extermination) along with the guilty. Tended to discourage the Sgt. Schultz defense. I expect the CCP still does it...
Posted by: magpie   2023-07-05 14:54  

#11  Fines? You gonna fine people of handouts?

You been sucking too many bottles of A/B Corona?
Posted by: swksvolFF   2023-07-05 13:24  

#10  Hang the "Youths" then hang the parents. Problem solved.
Posted by: DarthVader   2023-07-05 12:54  

#9  Replace parental rights with state control. Fine the parents when the kids act like leftist hooligans.
Posted by: Super Hose   2023-07-05 12:43  

#8  There's a big body of water to the west just begging for some chum. Give swimming lessons about 500KM out. Just saying....
Posted by: Frank G   2023-07-05 12:24  

#7  Monsieur, you are grasping at straws when you have a readily available solution. You need to put them all on airplanes and ships bound for the Third World shit hole of their choice.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2023-07-05 12:15  

#6  'Children'. He only needs to talk to the Afghans about all their grievous 'civilian' casualties from the SAS meanies.

Give me a break. If you're old enough to cause major civil strife, you're old enough to get shot and left where you fell.
Posted by: Cesare   2023-07-05 09:43  

#5  Juvie is prep school for criminals. Send them to Syria or wherever they came from.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2023-07-05 09:38  

#4  Yes I agree the neglectful and supportive parents should held responsible to some extent for damages.

Plus the brats need an extended stay in Juvenile Detention.

Posted by: NN2N1   2023-07-05 09:20  

#3  Some Old Testament "sins of the fathers (and mothers)" justice would focus attention.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2023-07-05 08:15  

#2  Repatriation would work better.
Posted by: Enver Slager8035   2023-07-05 08:14  

#1  He mispronounced the word 'exile'. Saint Pierre and Miquelon off of eastern Canada and French Guiana on the north coast of South America come to mind.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2023-07-05 08:11  

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