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USN is not healthy: ‘...fewer than half of our junior officers desire command.’ ...not retaining top talent...much frustration about administrative requirements...number of unqualified junior officers
2023-06-24
[USNInews] Surface Warfare Tackles Persistent Problems as More than Half of JOs Say They Don’t Want Command.
At least they’ve noticed there is a problem.
Over the last year, the Navy surveyed 2,500 officers on the highs and lows of a surface warfare career. The results surprised no one.

“SWOs of every rank take great pride in working with junior sailors. Our wardroom enjoys positive peer relationships, broadly has a strong bond with their commanding officers and appreciates the level of responsibility in their work,” reads the introduction to the survey.

“We also learned that fewer than half of our junior officers desire command. Most officers believe we are not retaining top talent. There is much frustration about our administrative requirements and the number of unqualified junior officers on each ship.”

Anyone familiar with surface warfare knows that frustrations about time away from home, too many JOs and a punishing amount of administrative paperwork are as common as mustard on a hotdog.

In 2021, the Government Accountability Office studied Navy career trends and found since 2004 SWOs had the shortest average careers of the major warfare communities in the Navy and surface warfare had a harder time generating department heads for ships.

“U.S. Navy officials stated that SWO retention to the department head milestone is low and requires them to commission nearly double the number of SWOs every year than needed, to ensure they have enough department heads eight years later,” reads the report.

The surface navy has polled its force every two years since 1999 and reached similar conclusions. Now, SWO leadership is trying to make better use of its data to make the community more appealing.

“There’s inherently a lot of friction on the ship,” Capt. Andy Koy, director of SURFOR commander’s action group at Naval Surface Warfare and former destroyer commander, told USNI News in an interview. “How can we reduce some of that?”

For example, having a ship full of ensigns competing for time on the bridge discourages SWOs from staying for the long haul, the community has found.
In the old days, if the Horatio Hornblower tales are anything to go by, the number of ensigns was thinned by cannonballs careening across ship decks. An effective method, though perhaps far from ideal...
Posted by:NoMoreBS

#8  SWO life was unpleasant but rewarding in the 90s. My second ship was co-ed, which added more complexity. Underway the workday often ended at 6PM. We stood either 4 hour of 6 hour watches both in and after the work day. The sailors that I served with are friends for life. The lifestyle did not seem sustainable to me for a long-term hitch.
Posted by: Super Hose   2023-06-24 15:14  

#7  But do they know their pronouns and drink Bud Light?
Posted by: AlanC   2023-06-24 10:58  

#6  I read a story some years ago, and I hope its true, that around WWII - that's WW11 for you ticktokers - a submarine lost propulsion so they rigged together sails and navigated back to a friendly port.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2023-06-24 10:57  

#5  Point to ponder:
If large groups of the SWO's find the job undesirable and leave, consider the mindset of the one's that do decide to stay.
Kinda skews the results.
Posted by: ed in texas   2023-06-24 10:05  

#4  #3: remminds me of my first attempt at celestial. i left tampa-bay in my 23ft sailboat, alone, and using only a sextant,and sailing due south, i raised the dry-tortugas after 30 hrs. I only guessed at my longitude but my latitude was right-on. If i could do it anyone could and with a good timepiece they could do longitude as well. hoorah!
Posted by: irish rage boy   2023-06-24 09:40  

#3  After GPS gets trashed, wonder how many can use a sextant to get back to port?
Posted by: Procopius2k   2023-06-24 08:48  

#2  Meet Sage, the US Navy's newest official comfort dog
Posted by: Skidmark   2023-06-24 01:17  

#1  Why stay in SWO if the USN's top ranks are selected from former Bubbleheads or Aviators? An old friend started in SWO and transferred to Staff/Intelligence for the rest of his career.
Posted by: magpie   2023-06-24 00:52  

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