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US signals to allies it won't block their export of F-16 jets to Ukraine
2023-05-19
[CNN] The Biden administration has signaled to European allies in recent weeks that the US would allow them to export F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine, sources familiar with the discussions said, as the White House comes under increasing pressure from members of Congress and allies to help Ukraine procure the planes amid intensifying Russian aerial attacks.

While the US remains reluctant to send any of its own F-16s to Kyiv, US officials told CNN that the administration is prepared to approve the export of the jets to Ukraine if that is what allies decide to do with their supply.

US lawmakers and congressional staffers have joined in the F-16 lobbying campaign, urging the administration to provide the jets so that Ukraine can establish control over its skies.

Another open question is where Ukrainian pilots would train on these F-16s. A spokesperson for UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said earlier this week that the UK and the Netherlands were looking to form an "international coalition" not only to procure the jets for Ukraine but also to train Ukrainian pilots on the 4th generation fighters, which are more advanced than the Ukrainian fighter fleet.

Russia launched an "unprecedented" series of missile attacks on Kyiv on Thursday morning, a Ukrainian official said, just days after Russia launched a barrage of six hypersonic missiles near the capital aimed at destroying Ukraine’s Patriot air defense systems.

"A series of air attacks on Kyiv, unprecedented in their power, intensity and variety, continues," said Serhii Popko, head of Kyiv’s civil and military administration.

Without the jets, Ukraine is having to improvise, officials say. Defense officials and congressional staffers told CNN that Ukrainian troops have in recent weeks used the US-made Patriot air defense system to shoot down at least one faraway Russian fighter jet. The Russian jets have largely been staying behind Russian defensive lines, making them difficult for Ukraine to target with shorter-range systems like NASAMs.

The Russian planes the Patriot targeted were on a bombing run to fire missiles against Ukrainian targets, US officials said, which Russia has been doing throughout the past year to maximize civilian casualties.

Posted by:Enver Slager8035

#6  Portugal also volunteered to train pilots and maintainers. No word if they will donate any of their F-16s. They sold some to Romania earlier.
Posted by: Enver Slager8035   2023-05-19 22:12  

#5  Used F-16s from NATO counties that are decommissioning them for F-35s. Possibilities: Norway, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium to begin. Then there are hundreds of US F-16s in storage, not to mention the F-16's that are replaced by 48 F-35s each year.

US Air Force instructors that evaluated 2 Ukrainian pilots reported that it will take 4 months to fully train them on the F-16. A more interesting question is how long will it take MiG and Su maintainers to train up, w/ backup in Poland.
Posted by: Enver Slager8035   2023-05-19 20:42  

#4  $3Billion will get you some 40 F-16s.

Then the time it will take to train the Ukrainians to fly them, right? Right?
Posted by: swksvolFF   2023-05-19 18:57  

#3  Also 6 JDAMs per sortie. No better shovel against dug in troops exists.
Posted by: Enver Slager8035   2023-05-19 15:18  

#2  Put western anti-air missiles on there and suddenly things become a lot more deadly for Russian jets approaching the Ukrainian border.

Also the Ukrainians can now fully use the HARM missiles they received. The MIG-29 didn't have the data 2 way to change the flight path so they were just launching them at an area and hoped the Russians didn't turn off the radar and move it. Still did a lot of damage, even in that mode.
Posted by: DarthVader   2023-05-19 13:04  

#1  Ukraine could receive 'game changing' F-16s as White House 'tells European allies it will not block export of fighter jets'
Posted by: Skidmark   2023-05-19 09:40  

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