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| Ukraine's Long-Expected Offensive: Why It Won't Beat Putin |
| 2023-05-14 |
| [19FortyFive] Ukraine has a complex reality it must face: U.S., UK, and EU senior leaders have voiced over the past few days strong support for Ukraine and their widely reported upcoming offensive. Reading some of the off-headline comments they’ve made, however, exposes the growing realization in the West that the hope of Zelensky accomplishing his stated objectives of driving Russia entirely out of Ukraine has a low probability of success. A change in Western policy, therefore, is urgently needed — before Kyiv suffers more combat losses that are unlikely to alter the fact that the war will most likely end with a negotiated settlement. RECENT DEVELOPMENTS IN UKRAINE WAR |
| Posted by:Abu Uluque |
| #6 It wasn't NATO who forced the Eastern Europeans to join. They were the ones who knocked on the door and demanded to be let in. And rightly so. It wasn't NATO who attacked and bit off chunks of Georgia, Ukraine in 2014 and tried to go whole hog on Ukraine in 2022. Seems the Eastern Euros were a hell of a lot smarter than Ukraine or you, for the matter. It is exactly for peace that the countries joined NATO. Putin is too afraid of the power of NATO to attack it. The Russians have made it no secret that they intend to recreate the Soviet Union. Bad news for the countries you mentioned who would "replace" the Russians. Meanwhile, the Warsaw Pact was just a list of countries the Soviets invaded. No more Russians? They've drunk the Red Kool-aid and the Black Kool-aid but not the purple yet. Their population implosion is of their own making, killing 30 million of the population in civil wars, forced starvation, gulags and outright police state murders. Then killing another another 30 by starting a WW2 in Europe in collusion with Nazi Germany. But, as Monte Hall would say, "That's not all!", Now Putin has started a war Russia can't win and what young wen don't die in Ukraine are flee Russia. Especially the highly educated and employable ones. A brain and body drain that will weaken Russia far beyond this war. Every one of those disasters were self inflicted. Blame the Russian soul, I blame their lack of morals and ethics. |
| Posted by: Enver Slager8035 2023-05-14 23:36 |
| #5 Bleed Russia until they're not a threat? A threat to whom? Seems to me the biggest threat to peace in that part of the world is NATO and bloody Biden's puppet masters who want to extend their antiquated treaty organization, their Holy Roman Empire, all the way to Vladivostok no matter how many people die. For what? Defense contractors? Globalist war mongers? Power for the sake of power? It sure as hell ain't for peace. It ain't peace if you have to kill for it. And Biden is the last man on earth I want to hear talking about democracy. And when the Russians are all dead, who will take over that part of the world? Mongols? Chechens? Turks? Iranians. Azerbaijanis? Kazhaks? Uzbeks? You know damn well what I mean. |
| Posted by: Abu Uluque 2023-05-14 19:56 |
| #4 Jkraine will retake territory. Are already. That’s enough for now. |
| Posted by: Hupolunter de Medici7308 2023-05-14 18:40 |
| #3 Not sure what's going to be left of Ukraine, either...all for nothing. |
| Posted by: DooDahMan 2023-05-14 17:06 |
| #2 Ukraine's Long-Expected Offensive: Why It Won't Beat Putin They don't have to beat him. They just have to bleed him long enough and badly enough that when they finally do give in, the Russian military will have been so badly bled that it will be decades, if ever, before they're a threat again. And when the Ukranians give in - and declare peace - they can join NATO. All those Russian dead, all the lost equipment, all the economic damage, and it will have been for nothing. Mike |
| Posted by: Mike Kozlowski 2023-05-14 14:29 |
| #1 Ukriane can lose, but Putin can't. Putin has depth, Ukraine doesn't. Even if Putin dies, the Russophiles will say "He made the ultimate sacrifice" and keep on. The ones that think like westerners have left or are trying to. |
| Posted by: ed in texas 2023-05-14 09:25 |