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Home Front: Politix
Mike Pence testifies before jury in investigation against Donald Trump
2023-04-29
[GEO.TV] Former US vice president Mike Pence testified before the grand jury on Thursday in the case by the special counsel against former US president Donald Trump
...Oh, noze! Not him!...
for sabotaging the election results of 2020 and the Capitol Hill incident of January 6, NBC reported citing sources.

Pence's testimony holds great importance as he was the president of the Senate at that time and could provide further details about what was Trump thinking that led to the Capitol Hill attack on January 6, 2021
...Trump complained after being cheated out of reelection and the FBI, Capitol Police, and Democrats jailed hundreds who converged on the capitol without trial for violating the Alien and Sedition Acts. One person, Ashley Babbitt was murdered by a Capitol policeman, who got a medal for it. One policeman died of a stroke, which was inflated to a dozen or so by ax murderers according to Dem propagandists...
In his memoir and a detailed article published in Wall Street Journal, he wrote about his interactions with the former president, though some details were not clear.

Pence, 63, parted ways with Trump over the January 6 riots.

The investigation team led by Special Counsel Jack Smith is focused on Trump's attempts to prevent the election ratification results.

The former vice president arrived with increased security at the federal courthouse in Washington.

In March, a federal judge ordered Mike Pence to testify before the court via subpoena.

Trump, 76, in order to refrain Pence to testify invoked special privilege but failed to block the testimony. The appeal by Trump was rejected on Wednesday by a federal appeals court.

While talking about the testimony of his former vice president, Trump told NBC News: "I don't know what he said, but I have a lot of confidence in him."

Pence testified before the court in which the members of the Proud Boys — the far-right group that was ordered by Donald Trump to remain on standby before the 2020 polls — were also awaiting the jury's decision in their case of sedition.

In the concluding arguments, the lawyer for former Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio said that the federal government was trying to make Tarrio a "scapegoat" for Trump, whom he blamed for the attack on the Capitol.
Given that Mr. Tarrio was on the FBI payroll at the time, it seems his indignation is legitimate, though the blame most definitely displaced.
While responding to a subpoena and his insistence on not testifying, Pence's team maintained that he was protected by the Constitution’s "speech or debate" clause, which details that politicians cannot be forced to testify about legislative activity.

His team said the clause should apply to him because he was acting in his role as president of the Senate when January 6 unfolded.

However,
women are made to be loved, not understood...
in a ruling federal judge said despite the clause, "it does not prevent him from testifying about alleged illegal behaviour by Trump."

Last month, Pence maintained that he has nothing to hide.

He went on: "I believe we did our duty that day under the Constitution of the United States, and in this matter, I thought it was important that we stand on that constitutional principle again."

He also noted: "But we're currently speaking to our attorneys about the proper way forward."

"President Trump was wrong. I had no right to overturn the election," Pence said at the Gridiron Dinner for politicians and journalists in March.

"And his reckless words endangered my family and everyone at the Capitol that day, and I know history will hold Donald Trump accountable," he added.
He staked out his position in the days leading up to the events in question, and so cannot publicly change his mind now. One wonders how he sleeps at night...
Related:
Mike Pence: 2023-04-15 South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem sparks outrage after telling NRA audience her ONE-year-old granddaughter 'already has a shotgun and rifle'
Mike Pence: 2023-03-20 Republicans rally around Trump as they claim Manhattan DA 'targeting' ex-president for prosecution
Mike Pence: 2023-03-13 Pence: Trump ‘endangered my family’ on January 6, history will hold him accountable
Related:
January 6: 2023-04-27 Chief Robert Contee Leaving DC Police Department for FBI
January 6: 2023-04-26 Proud Boys leader’s lawyer: Trump to blame for January 6 Capitol riot
January 6: 2023-04-25 Tucker up,Buttercup!
Posted by:Fred

#9  Abe served only one House term. It was a Whig thing.
Posted by: Super Hose   2023-04-29 19:23  

#8  Abe "Habeas Corpus" Lincoln was a Whig.
Posted by: DooDahMan   2023-04-29 12:41  

#7  ^ The Whigs? The No-Nothing Party?
Posted by: M. Murcek   2023-04-29 12:38  

#6  I'm in the middle of an online course about the 10 best and 10 worst presidents. The instructor says in so many words that FDR made Bill Clinton pretty much look like an amateur.
Posted by: DooDahMan   2023-04-29 12:37  

#5  Pop quiz, which major political party (philosophy) believes people should actually have foundational principles that define how they live their lives and hold oaths as a genuine commitment, and which thinks it is all situational ethics and bullshit to fool the rubes?

Anypne....Bueller ...Bueller?
Posted by: NoMoreBS   2023-04-29 12:31  

#4  Trump's biggest problem was finding people he could trust. Not many of those in DC.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2023-04-29 12:31  

#3  I'm sure Pence is stabbing DJT in the back - again.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2023-04-29 12:26  

#2  Executive privilege is supposed to cover conversations between a president, the sole executive, and direct advisors so that the president can be assured of getting objective and varied opinions. The new idea that executive privilege disappears when the administration ends, defeats the entire purpose of the concept. Now we will all watch the coin flip and executive privilege suddenly include everything to do with Joe Biden’s life and family members. Somehow the VP office, as potential president, will be covered. All this Pence stuff will do is demonstrate the double standard.
Posted by: Super Hose   2023-04-29 12:19  

#1  Pence is just another DC establishment wonk (if not Deep Stater). I don't know if Trump actually selected him for VP or if Pence was "force upon" Trump; in any case, yet another poor personnel decision involving The Donald.
Posted by: DooDahMan   2023-04-29 11:55  

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