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| Hunters fear 'end of firearm sales' until Oregon creates gun permit system |
| 2022-11-19 |
| [FoxNews] Oregon police rush to create gun permit system as December deadline approaches. One of the nation's strictest gun control measures takes effect next month in Oregon. Hunters and other gun groups fear it will force all firearm sales to pause. Gun rights advocates fear all firearm sales will freeze in Oregon in three weeks when one of the nation's strictest gun control measures takes effect. Measure 114, which voters appear to have been passed by a 1.5% margin, bans ammunition magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds and mandates the creation of a permit-to-purchase system that includes hands-on firearm training. "We're looking at the end of firearm sales in Oregon until this system is put into place," Amy Patrick, policy director for the Oregon Hunters Association, told Fox News. Oregon State Police announced this week that Measure 114 will take effect Dec. 8. Fox News asked OSP in an email whether firearm purchases will halt on that date if a permit processing system is not yet in place. A spokesperson for the agency said only that "OSP is working diligently to ensure that the new Permit to Purchase program will be operational by December 8, 2022." Six out of Oregon's 36 counties voted in favor of the measure. At least five sheriffs have said they will not enforce part or all of the law when it takes effect, but it's not yet clear how that would work with a permitting system that will likely be implemented at the state level. Numerous outdoor and sportsmen groups have expressed opposition to Measure 114, including the national Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation and National Shooting Sports Foundation. "It’s a feel-good measure that only adds new unfunded burdens on local police, eliminates opportunities for recreational activities and hurts conservation funding while not making any tangible impact on the real problem," Keely Hopkins, the manager of Pacific states & firearm policy for Congressional Sportsmen’s Foundation, wrote in a statement. Patrick said gun stores are preparing for the worst-case scenario, telling customers they may have to stop selling firearms next month. "That also means that Oregonians cannot go out of state to purchase firearms either," Patrick said. "We're basically being held hostage by 114 because firearms dealers have to respect the laws of a person's home state." Federal law forbids gun sales for buyers from outside states in most instances OSP has seen an "extreme" increase in requests for background checks since before the midterm elections, according to a Facebook post by the agency. The spike now appears even more dramatic than during the coronavirus pandemic, when Oregon and other states saw record-breaking gun sales. Currently, Oregonians only need to pass a background check to buy a gun. But the new measure requires that prospective gun buyers complete "in-person demonstration of the applicant’s ability to lock, load, unload, fire and store a firearm before an instructor certified by a law enforcement agency" — a much stricter process than what is currently required to obtain a concealed handgun license in Oregon. The language of the magazine capacity limit may also impact bird hunters and skeet and trap shooters, leading to opposition from the Oregon National Rifle Association, the Democratic Party of Oregon Gun Owners Caucus and the Oregon Firearms Federation which argue that several shotgun models are capable of holding more than 10 rounds. "That's going to make a big impact on our shot gunners and whether or not they can utilize the firearms that they have or potentially purchase a firearm that would be appropriate for bird hunting," Patrick said. She said OHA knows of several state and national groups preparing to file litigation. "We are hopeful that there will be an injunction put in place with some of these lawsuits," she said. "That's the best case scenario right now." |
| Posted by:Skidmark |
| #6 Proof of that can be found in ATF's continued attempts (until 10 years ago) at locating records dating back to the 1980's. Ask me how I know. Posted by: Besoeker How do you know? |
| Posted by: The Walking Unvaxed 2022-11-19 11:00 |
| #5 There's no point at all in debating details of how an Oregon state system could work. The entire point was to vote for an incomplete system not ready to be implemented, and most likely NEVER ready to implement. See? It's simple. The 'people' voted for a system and they got it, only it may take just a little while longer to work out the details. Longer, longer than what? You'll see, but I wouldn't hang from a tree by your ears waiting. It is another socialist shift and double clutch, like mail in ballots and trannies on demand. |
| Posted by: Cesare 2022-11-19 09:52 |
| #4 Can anyone point to one single crime solved by the ATFs firearms records shenanigans? I mean solved crime, that is to say "proved whodunit after the investigation otherwise hit a wall," not tracing a gun used in a crime back to some previous owner or seller not involved in that crime. |
| Posted by: M. Murcek 2022-11-19 08:54 |
| #3 /\ Given, hardly anyone still believes Firearm purchase records are actually deleted ## days afterwards by the ATF and etc... with only the FFL dealer retaining a sales copy. Proof of that can be found in ATF's continued attempts (until 10 years ago) at locating records dating back to the 1980's. Ask me how I know. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2022-11-19 08:51 |
| #2 Given, Federal law is clear that a FFL dealer cannot sell a firearm to an out-of-State individual unless the sale complies with the laws in both states. Wouldn't Oregon now without an active law prohibiting this, still allow for adjoining state purchases? Besides (eg. Oregon Firearm Private Sales) is just 1 of many alternatives to FFL recorded purchases people are using besides private sales at gun shows. Given, hardly anyone still believes Firearm purchase records are actually deleted ## days afterwards by the ATF and etc... with only the FFL dealer retaining a sales copy. |
| Posted by: NN2N1 2022-11-19 07:22 |
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| Posted by: Skidmark 2022-11-18 11:24 |