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| Germany's Position in America's New World Order. |
| 2022-11-09 |
| [SavageMinds] Germany has become an economic satellite of America’s New Cold War with Russia, China and the rest of Eurasia. Germany and other NATO countries have been told to impose trade and investment sanctions upon themselves that will outlast today’s proxy war in Ukraine. US President Biden and his State Department spokesmen have explained that Ukraine is just the opening arena in a much broader dynamic that is splitting the world into two opposing sets of economic alliances. This global fracture promises to be a ten- or twenty-year struggle to determine whether the world economy will be a unipolar US-centred dollarised economy, or a multipolar, multi-currency world centred on the Eurasian heartland with mixed public/private economies. President Biden has characterised this split as being between democracies and autocracies. The terminology is typical Orwellian double-speak. By "democracies" he means the US and allied Western financial oligarchies. Their aim is to shift economic planning out of the hands of elected governments to Wall Street and other financial centres under US control. US diplomats use the International Monetary Fund and World Bank to demand privatisation of the world’s infrastructure and dependency on US technology, oil and food exports. |
| Posted by:Spike the Hairy6811 |
| #77 Russia won't stop with Ukraine. Oh please. What nonsense. Just STOP. Be intelligent for once. |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 23:51 |
| #76 #71 They’re even depleting the stocks we need for own defense. We are weaker than we’ve been at any time since 1979. Once again, true, if we = Russia. Which is now using 1960s era tanks, rusty AK-47s, filling its lines with untrained and unsupplied mobik cannon fodder, and is reduced to buying arms from Iran and North Korea. The Russian army is dying in the mud of Ukraine. |
| Posted by: Nero 2022-11-09 23:05 |
| #75 They’re even depleting the stocks we need for own defense. We are weaker than we’ve been at any time since 1979. You mentioned we had two oceans protecting us and that we don't need to keep such spending up... now you are saying we need it for our defense. Which is it? You flip flop worse than a 3 dollar whore during fleet week. And no I don't long for another cold war. Grew up during one already thank you very much. Which is why I am happy to give Ukraine weapons as long as they are willing to fight and die for their country. Russia won't stop with Ukraine. I don't want a war, but Russia doesn't give a shit what I want. So they can die in Ukraine and lose their breeding population and be sent to the dustbin of history. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2022-11-09 20:22 |
| #74 Did someone say epitaph? Unworthy epitaph: Dead Democrat Wins by Landslide in Pennsylvania Election Frank Bergman November 9, 2022 |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 19:28 |
| #73 The GOP must get away from celebrity and sportsball player candidates. Reagan was the exception that proves the rule. He was an all-around man who happened to be a underwhelming actor, but was also a union head, governor and still one of our best and most long-term influential on the world stage Presidents. Larry Elder, Herschel Walker, Kari Lake and Tudor Dixon are not Ronald Reagan. Not even close on their best days. |
| Posted by: M. Murcek 2022-11-09 19:21 |
| #72 Ref #69: Had the GOP put forth a slate of intelligent and forceful, true America-First senate candidates like JD Vance, we would have won easily in each of the close races. A worthy epitaph. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2022-11-09 17:22 |
| #71 Hey we get it: you miss the Cold War and want to show off what’s left of your military knowledge but for the rest of us Americans, this war is another pointless intervention in a shithole where we have nothing at stake. Your venom should be directed at the assholes who have wasted literally TRILLIONS on these foolish adventures while running our country into the ground. They’re even depleting the stocks we need for own defense. We are weaker than we’ve been at any time since 1979. WTF? |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 16:37 |
| #70 Here come da stoopid. Yep, you keep coming back stoopid, posting the Russian script like a good little Deadnick. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2022-11-09 16:24 |
| #69 Look, the one Senate candidate who clearly and strongly articulated the America First message was that new GOP candidate who won in a landslide: JD Vance in Ohio. Had the GOP put forth a slate of intelligent and forceful, true America-First senate candidates like JD Vance, we would have won easily in each of the close races. |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 16:12 |
| #68 |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 16:07 |
| #67 Go away, troll You first, Putie-puffer. You have a word for word posting from the Russian script. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2022-11-09 16:05 |
| #66 FFS, we have so many humongous problems to solve now at home. We’ve just seen another clown show election in which — YJCMTSU — a brain-damaged freak, a lifelong bum and now mental patient who can’t even utter a coherent sentence was supposedly elected to serve in the United States Senate. As if that’s a normal result of a free and fair election in a normal country. Right. Either because the election was stolen — again — or because a majority of Americans are truly warped by hatred of the GOP, America is truly fucked if we intervene even one more time in another foreign disaster. Our house is on fire. Put out the fire at home. America First. |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 16:05 |
| #65 “The” Propaganda?? What English speaker would use the definite article with propaganda? Go away, troll |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 15:58 |
| #64 * On behalf of the most corrupt country this side of Nigeria |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 15:56 |
| #63 The Russian Propaganda (For Dummies) |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2022-11-09 15:55 |
| #62 Who is “we”? Why are you demanding we get involved in a shithole like Ukraine? Seriously, who the fuck are all these people demanding that America get involved in a region that nothing whatsoever to do with our freedom or security? On behalf of the most curtly country this side of Nigeria. Why is that America’s problem? European shitholes like Ukraine are Europe’s problem. You deal with your shitholes, we’ll deal with ours — Philly, Seattle, San Francisco, Chicago, DC … |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 15:54 |
| #61 I think we'll leave Russia out of this. |
| Posted by: European Conservative 2022-11-09 15:48 |
| #60 Buddy, that’s the same line we heard about the Afghans. And the Kurds, Syrians South Vietnamese blah blah. Another year, another corrupt shithole country we’re told we need to defend. I don’t wish any of them ill. It’s just not America’s problem. If the Euros want to intervene, hey, be my guest. Just leave America out of it. |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 15:47 |
| #59 Ridiculous. The Ukrainians fight for their freedom and sheer existence. |
| Posted by: European Conservative 2022-11-09 15:27 |
| #58 Lots of "Let's you and him fight" types amongst the Ukraine boosters. “We Will fight to the last Ukrainian” - Miss Lindsey Graham |
| Posted by: Butch Phong3987 2022-11-09 15:21 |
| #57 In Illinois the dead vote. In Russia they get drafted. |
| Posted by: European Conservative 2022-11-09 15:06 |
| #56 Lots of "Let's you and him fight" types amongst the Ukraine boosters. |
| Posted by: M. Murcek 2022-11-09 14:59 |
| #55 Preventing Russia from annexing Ukraine is America's interest. Eastern NATO members are next on the Bear's menu and better to maul it now and send it running back to the cave before it can digest Europe's largest country and recreate the Soviet empire in new Fascist colors. |
| Posted by: Shamp Snurt3261 2022-11-09 14:51 |
| #54 Only a moron would call the America First movement “communist” Is that you, Fetterman? Brandon? |
| Posted by: Palermo 2022-11-09 14:48 |
| #53 Snurt, Are you retarded? The America First movement is AGAINST internationalism. Against globalism, be it lefty, greenie, commie, neocon or otherwise. America First. Got that? |
| Posted by: Palermo 2022-11-09 14:42 |
| #52 Just a shadow of your former self |
| Posted by: Shamp Snurt3261 2022-11-09 14:42 |
| #51 You sure are Russki. Just a show of your former self militarily, economically, politically, socially from the beginning of this year. Begging North Korea and Iran for weapons, uniforms. What next? Begging for snow? |
| Posted by: Shamp Snurt3261 2022-11-09 14:41 |
| #50 Ever hear of "International Socialism"? |
| Posted by: Shamp Snurt3261 2022-11-09 14:37 |
| #49 #39 If you let others do it by brute force, you'll cease to be a world power pretty soon. We are in fact rapidly losing power. We cannot even fight and win one war— let alone two major wars against Russia and China. The Heritage Foundation evaluated each branch of our military for readiness and competence, and gave the Army, Navy and Air Force each a failing grade. Failing. You keep pretending that what’s already happened — the decline of our military and loss of our influence — will happen if we don’t keep shoveling trillions into shitholes around the globe. You’re seriously deluded. Oh and those “brutes” keep winning, everywhere. The brutes kicked us out of Afghanistan — after a trillion wasted and 20 years of blood spilled. The brutes prevailed in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Somalia. Every one of those was a pointless waste of American blood and treasure. |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 14:36 |
| #48 Russia is a classic Fascist state with yearnings to recreate their "great" Communist past. That is what this war is about, Putin's great desire to reassemble the Soviet empire. Maybe enough Russians will wake up, otherwise winter is coming for them. |
| Posted by: Shamp Snurt3261 2022-11-09 14:36 |
| #47 Why are Communists What kind of moron thinks that enemies of left-liberal internationalism are “communists”? |
| Posted by: Palermo 2022-11-09 14:28 |
| #46 Brilliant. One guy’s world view was frozen in 1938, the other’s in 1949. A clue for the clueless: Russia hasn’t been communist since 1991. It’s not a global rival anymore. Not even close |
| Posted by: Palermo 2022-11-09 14:26 |
| #45 #29 We’re eroding our influence and our position in the world. For nothing. Correct statement, where we = Russia. |
| Posted by: Nero 2022-11-09 14:01 |
| #44 Ihe US should not intervened in Russia circa 1941-5. Now, there was a conflict where America had no dog in the fight. |
| Posted by: Shamp Snurt3261 2022-11-09 13:51 |
| #43 ^ bullshit. The US doesn’t need to intervene in regions that have no impact on US security. It’s stupid to treat every little war on God’s earth as a replay of Munich 1938 |
| Posted by: Palermo 2022-11-09 13:44 |
| #42 Why are Communists so damn wordy and make their spiels unreadable? It's like they are trying their best to emulate Russian authors. |
| Posted by: Shamp Snurt3261 2022-11-09 13:41 |
| #41 America went through isolationism in the 1930s. Imagine America abandoning the UK, Germany and Japan attacking the Soviet Union together. Abandon Taiwan and China will grab it. But don't believe for a minute that it will stop here. China will want its side of the Pacific Ocean, and who knows it might want it all. China is heavily investing in Africa, South Asia and South America. It will show up in Mexico, too. |
| Posted by: European Conservative 2022-11-09 13:35 |
| #40 Just quit pretending to be a "concerned conservative American". The troll script is worn out. Why not tell us the economic, political and social situation in Russia so that we can learn something. |
| Posted by: Shamp Snurt3261 2022-11-09 13:31 |
| #39 If you let others do it by brute force, you'll cease to be a world power pretty soon. |
| Posted by: European Conservative 2022-11-09 13:26 |
| #38 Russian Defense Minister Shoigu ordered Surovkin to withdraw troops from Kherson region to the other side of the Dnipro river |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2022-11-09 13:24 |
| #37 ^ The GloboHomos’ only riposte is to say “Russian TROLL!!!” or “Isolationist!!” every time anyone points out the stupidity of their policies. It’s yet another measure of their bankruptcy. Eastern Europe is irrelevant to our freedom and security. Not our problem. Let the Euros sort it out amongst themselves. |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 13:22 |
| #36 America First. You have done your duty Russian troll. Go collect 50 rubles from the casa. |
| Posted by: Shamp Snurt3261 2022-11-09 13:18 |
| #35 * Hong-Kong’ed getting “Hung-Kong’ed” sounds like Paul Pelosi’s idea of a good time |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 13:16 |
| #34 Isolationism and world power number one don't Ah the “isolationist” canard. I’m saying we should be MORE attentive to the regions that really do affect Americans’ freedom and security, which are 1) our southern border and 2) the home front. Both are under siege now, thanks to the idiotic and criminal intervene-everywhere, protect-nothing policies of our GloboHomo zealots. The overseas region that truly matters is the Pacific — and no, not the South China Sea; Taiwan will in due course be Hung Kong’ed and brought under China’s control, and it’s pointless to pretend we can prevent it. I want my country to be free, safe and prosperous. Thirty years of foolish globalism and interventions all over the globe — my God, the list of all the overseas wars we’ve started or escalated since 1988 us as long as your arm — these foolish adventures have had the OPPOSITE effect. Excepting our top 1/10th of 1 percent, we are unquestionably poorer today — and less free and less secure as well— than we were at the time of the USSR’s collapse. Our elites were given a golden prize, and they trashed it. It’s simply astonishing how badly they’ve fucked up, and how much damage they have caused to America. To hell with those fools. Their reign of misrule has come to an end. America First. |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 13:13 |
| #33 Judging from the Russian troll farm output telling Americans what they ought to do, the Russians are getting desperate. Running away from Kherson w/o a fight or even looting all the toilets. Can you imagine the humiliation? |
| Posted by: Shamp Snurt3261 2022-11-09 13:11 |
| #32 ^ This |
| Posted by: M. Murcek 2022-11-09 13:02 |
| #31 Isolationism and world power number one don't get together. You can be powerful without going around the world telling other people who can govern their countries and who can't. |
| Posted by: Abu Uluque 2022-11-09 13:01 |
| #30 Billy B, don't count your chickens before they're hatched. We are still hopeful but many of the congressional races are still in contention. |
| Posted by: Abu Uluque 2022-11-09 12:59 |
| #29 “Russia winning in Ukraine doesn't matter to America” Correct. It means three things above all, none of which impinges on American freedoms or American security: - Ukraine will be neutral and not aligned with NATO - Crimea and Sebastopol remain Russian and not threatened by NATO - Russian speakers in Eastern Ukraine will have autonomy and no longer be attacked, murdered and tortured by far-right Ukrainian neo-Nazis. None of these outcomes has anything whatsoever to do with our freedom or our national security. They are totally irrelevant to us. By contrast, prolonging the war will definitely drag America down in the eyes of the non-European world. Our foolish intervention is already pushing China and Russia closer together, and the Saudis closer to Russia, and the Indians closer to Russia. We’re eroding our influence and our position in the world. For nothing. |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 12:55 |
| #28 Isolationism and world power number one don't get together. |
| Posted by: European Conservative 2022-11-09 12:16 |
| #27 they have no moral standing "They" being who? The kindergarten class at Kyiv Elementary No. 1? |
| Posted by: Matt 2022-11-09 12:12 |
| #26 To think "America First" is not wrong at all. To think that Russia winning in Ukraine doesn't matter to America is. China is watching closely. Abandon Ukraine and China will draw its conclusions. |
| Posted by: European Conservative 2022-11-09 12:08 |
| #25 Because literally thousands of people were slaughtered by the Ukrainians’ neo-Nazis. They have no moral standing. When we start crusading and butting into other people’s squabbles, morality starts to get really complicated. We’ve done this again and again sngain, and come to grief every time. Vietnam. Iraq. Afghanistan. Libya. Syria. If Iranians kill Iraqis, or Iraqis kill Kurds, or Kurdish PKK terrorists kill Turks, or Turks kill Syrians, or Syrians kill Syrians or Libyans kill Libyans —- it’s none of our business. Ditto for Slav-X and Slav-Y. We have no dog in their fight. None. And even if we did, our escalating the killing helps NO ONE. Except our Swampie grifters and neocon nutcases. |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 12:07 |
| #24 We just won back the House. America First. For once. You are gonna be a sad and disappointed little boy in January. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2022-11-09 11:57 |
| #23 I'm invested in the survival of the 3 million civilians in Kyiv you think are about to die from cold or hunger caused by Russian bombardment. The question is, why aren't you? |
| Posted by: Matt 2022-11-09 11:54 |
| #22 Why are you so invested in this? What business is it of ours? The whole point of America First is to stop the grifters and neocons from dragging us into their pointless Forever Wars. We just won back the House. America First. For once. |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 11:47 |
| #21 Developing: "Putin's defense chief orders retreat in Kherson, the first major Ukrainian city Russian forces captured, in new battlefield humiliation" |
| Posted by: Matt 2022-11-09 11:38 |
| #20 Dude. Since last night, the T-shirt man is calling for peace talks. He’s asking for them. Look it up. The Big Grift is finished. We’re finally going to learn how many of our billions were stolen and where they went. Pitbull Jim Jordan will be all over this. Sic ‘em, boy. G-r-r-r |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 11:32 |
| #19 Especially not the 3 million Kyiv residents..." Russia has shown itself to be quite proficient at committing war crimes. It seems to come naturally to them. |
| Posted by: Matt 2022-11-09 11:23 |
| #18 It’s only the Biden Administration’s insane neocons (plus a few hardliners on each side) who want the war to continue. You haven't talked to many Ukrainians then. The Ukrainian flag has been raised over Snihurivka, Mykolaiv Oblast |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2022-11-09 11:15 |
| #17 The emerging reality is that escalation of the war — Russia pounding the shit out of UA’s infrastructure, and more bloody battles — benefits no one. Especially not the 3 million Kyiv residents who are now facing severe deprivation and possibly death as winter sets in. It’s only the Biden Administration’s insane neocons (plus a few hardliners on each side) who want the war to continue. |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 11:13 |
| #16 I’m, because they’re losing, and the few remaining Ukrainians in Kyiv are now freezing in the dark? Deny the facts all you like. The Biden Administration’s little puppet is now clamoring for negotiations. He can put the dots together. The GOP just took back the chamber in which all spending bills must originate. His gravy train is finished. |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 11:09 |
| #15 TASS: "Russia has never refused to conduct negotiations with Ukraine, and it is still ready to hold them taking into account the emerging realities, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova told a news briefing on Wednesday." |
| Posted by: Matt 2022-11-09 11:08 |
| #14 ...and the Russians are abandoning Kherson. Another good will gesture, no doubt. Why the heck should Ukraine negotiate away their territory when they are steadily taking it back, and gutting the Russian armed forces in the process? |
| Posted by: Nero 2022-11-09 10:54 |
| #13 Buddy, we’ve been through this. Minsk II, and what the Russians proposed in early April and Zelensky was ready to sign, were good agreements. Your problem is not with Russia. It’s with the Biden Administration’s fanatical warmongers. They quashed the peace deal between UA and RU. It was that rancid little butterball Nuland and her confrères who staged the 2014 coup that set the country on fire. It was the rabid neocons esp Lindsey Graham and John McCain (No Peace Be Unto Him) who stoked the flames into an 8-year civil war with berserk Ukrainian neo-Nazis slaughtering thousands in the East. It was Nuland again plus Winken-Blinken and Brandon who backed up a gasoline tanker and sprayed fuel on the flames from March 2021 through February 21. At their urging, Ukraine suddenly declared, right after Biden’s inauguration, a ludicrous vow to “take back” Crimea. And then escalated the war with a massive increase in shelling of Donetsk in mid-February 2022. These are FACTS. You can deny these facts all you like, but the regime change that must occur for peace to have a chance is in Washington. Thanks to last night’s results, we’re a bit more than halfway there. Which explains why Z-man made his hard turn last night and announced his readiness for negotiations: Ukraine urging globe to ‘force Russia into peace talks,’ hard turn from previous stance By Evan Simko-Bednarski November 8, 2022 6:50pm ET |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 10:40 |
| #12 "Only a fool who doesn’t understand economics or strategy would fail to see that Germany and Russia are natural, obvious partners." Certainly true, but not a Russia invading and destroying its neighbors. |
| Posted by: European Conservative 2022-11-09 10:16 |
| #11 * the transparently phony lib-globalist bleatings about “muh democracy” and “autocracy” |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 10:04 |
| #10 Only a fool who doesn’t understand economics or strategy would fail to see that Germany and Russia are natural, obvious partners. All the transparently phony lib-globalist blessings about “muh democracy” and “autocracy” cannot alter this hard fact if realpolitik. It’s beyond foolish for Germany to make itself totally reliant on US LNG. The only explanation for this collective suicide is the corruption of the German elites — Exhibit A being the corruptocratic cunt Ursula von der Leyen. Unbelievable. She’s at it AGAIN—- whoring for Pfizer now: Pfizer, Ursula von der Leyen and €35 billion corruption 21 October 2022 |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 10:03 |
| #9 I'm really not the guy who watches Youtube speeches. Makes it difficult to comment. Prefer everything in writing. |
| Posted by: European Conservative 2022-11-09 09:50 |
| #8 Well, shit happens Nice. Behold the liberal Globalist’s snarling contempt for his people and his nation. For them, it’s The Grift Uber Alles. Scheiss happens, meinen freunden! What’s German for suck it up, bitchez? |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 09:48 |
| #7 Germany: Domestic and Foreign Policy Wouldn't mind getting your thoughts on the above EC. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2022-11-09 09:46 |
| #6 "Russia didn’t / doesn’t / won’t and cannot “control” Germany." We just found out how dependent Germany is (or rather was) on Russian energy. And that's exactly how Russia wanted it. What we should have done after 2014: Reducing our gas imports from Russia by 5% every year. All that trouble we have now could have been avoided. Russia expected that Germany (and Europe) would only react with insignificant sanctions and no arms to Ukraine. Well, shit happens. But remember it was Russia who cut the gas supplies. |
| Posted by: European Conservative 2022-11-09 09:40 |
| #5 * what the US is imposing on Germany and Russia is stupid and destructive, for everyone except US banksters and LNG companies |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 09:28 |
| #4 Russia didn’t / doesn’t / won’t and cannot “control” Germany. That’s a fevered fantasy of neocons and stupid liberal Globalists. Economist Michael Hudson’s well-argued point re Germany is clearly and simply that what the US is imposing on Germany and Russia is stupid and destructive, for everyone except US banisters and LNG companies. (Along with, of course, the US MIC. Don’t ever forget Lloyd-Raytheon and Lockheed.) Germany is, and soon will cease to be, the world’s most advanced manufacturing economy. Russia is, and will remain for generations to come, the world’s biggest supplier of all the energy, materials and metals that German manufacturing critically relies upon. For Germany to turn away from such a country and make itself 100% reliant upon a self-interested and unscrupulous foreign supplier, one who’s charging the Germans 4-5x as much and forcing a foolish “green energy” policy on them as well —- this amounts to national suicide. Well, it won’t be the first time that Good Germans have followed a monstrous leader over the cliff. It’s what |
| Posted by: Billy B 2022-11-09 09:27 |
| #3 tl;dr US control bad Russia control good |
| Posted by: European Conservative 2022-11-09 09:00 |
| #2 /\ Headed the other direction in fact. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2022-11-09 07:26 |
| #1 The only weakness in this...literary wonder is the author assumes in the U.S. government a level of competence and forethought that I have yet to see. |
| Posted by: Nguard 2022-11-09 07:13 |