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| Waiting for a Verdict |
| 2021-11-19 |
 Have been reading back channel comments while we all await the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict.One commenter stood out beyond others in overall suspicion of the jury. He/She/It basically asked....Are they waiting for Friday to announce so that ANTI-FA/BLM and others can use the weekend better for Rioting and Looting? More than anything I read, it showed me, the depth of mistrust we have reached in the US Justice System. |
| Posted by:NN2N1 |
| #17 Not guilty all counts. |
| Posted by: M. Murcek 2021-11-19 13:19 |
| #16 When there is juror intimidation, threats of violence outside the court house, the best thing the judge can do to protect the jurors is to declare a mistrial. |
| Posted by: Abu Uluque 2021-11-19 12:06 |
| #15 I think a mistrial is likely, but followed by a retrial. Repeat as necessary. The process is the punishment. Eventually the kid will make a mistake in his testimony/presentation. |
| Posted by: Glenmore 2021-11-19 11:15 |
| #14 Which of the witnesses is she acquainted with? If she is in fact aiming to convict Kyle, is she friends with ... Grosskreutz? If so, does she know that this asshole perjured himself? Or that he too is a felon, one who reportedly threatened to beat up his grandmother? Is she like him a comrade in the "People's Revolution"? How the f--k did she get on the jury? |
| Posted by: Merrick Ferret 2021-11-19 08:44 |
| #13 Agree with the ferret re: Branca's psychoanalysis of Juror 54; up to that point he'd been very fact-oriented and reasonable. I suspect the jury dragging out what to him (and most of us) was a slam dunk acquittal has exhausted his patience. |
| Posted by: Mercutio 2021-11-19 08:31 |
#12  /\ (1) This foreperson evidently knows several of the witnesses. How the hell could she have been allowed to swerve in the jury? What am I missing?WTF moment? Additional grounds for mistrial? Lawyers, legal experts, Bueller, anyone ? |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2021-11-19 08:20 |
| #11 Andrew Branca published the .pdf of the Jury Foreperson's written request to Judge Schroeder as part of his speculations as to her character -- he thinks she's the holdout, based largely on the fact that she's requesting to scrutinize the FBI drone video. I don't share Branca's conclusions based on his armchair diagnosis of her character or motives, but two facts leap out to my attention: 1) This foreperson evidently knows several of the witnesses. How the hell could she have been allowed to swerve in the jury? What am I missing? 2) She misspelled Rosenbaum's name, with two S's, as Rossenbaum. Any literate person knows that the second S not only changes the pronunciation of the first syllable, turning it from a long O to a short one-- which also makes the name into one that literally does not exist. And what person with more than a 10th-grade education and living in Wisconsin, a state where every third surname is German, doesn't know there is no such name as ROSSENbaum? So how the hell did this dope, who should have been sent home during jury selection in the first place, get to be the Foreperson on the jury? Surreal. Just surreal. |
| Posted by: Merrick Ferret 2021-11-19 08:14 |
#10 /\  They’d been lying to the defense and the court. Defense investigators had also tried to get that video, but the owner of the company, which went out of business since the riots, said he didn’t have it. See the video below."Went out of business" did he? Sold everything. Kept nothing of interest ? |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2021-11-19 07:56 |
| #9 follow-up |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2021-11-19 07:46 |
#8  The prosecution had the identity of "Jump kick man" all along but wouldn't call him as a witness because he wanted immunity. They withheld his identity from the defense."Hid identify, because he wanted....." Or was it those he was working for ? |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2021-11-19 07:43 |
| #7 The prosecution had the identity of "Jump kick man" all along but wouldn't call him as a witness because he wanted immunity. They witheld his identity from the deffence. They still used his picture to paint Rittenhouse as an attacker even though it clearly shows him on the ground being kicked in the head. That alone should be grounds for a mistrial and some sort of sanctioning of the prosecution. The prosecution also has another witness that they put in jail on a different charge thereby denying Rittenhouse a chance to question him. This is beyond shameful. It's criminal. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2021-11-19 07:37 |
| #6 I agree with Besoeker Given additional data leaking out. Jack Posobiec, the senior editor of Human Events, tweeted out that according to a source within the U.S. Marshals, two jurors are holding up proceedings, “outright citing backlash,” worried about the effect a verdict may have on their jobs and families. All going back to the many well documented Jury Threats and Intimidation tactics used by Media and yes even the DA's office taking a blind eye to it. BEGGING THE QUESTION: Where is the Wis. State Police? Why they investigating these Civil Rights crimes? |
| Posted by: NN2N1 2021-11-19 06:18 |
| #5 Kyle Rittenhouse trial: Judge describes jury instructions as 'very confusing' |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2021-11-19 04:56 |
| #4 /\ I also believe it could end up as a hung jury and then I think the judge will declare a mistrial with prejudice in favor of the defense. Mistrial very likely. Recent MSNBC actions related to the jury bus makes the case for a mistriale even stronger. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2021-11-19 04:08 |
| #3 Since the jury are not sequestered and are going home every now ght the trial is still ongoing. The defense had big headlines rewagarding video evidence shenanigans by prosecuters and the defense knows the jurers will hear about it the evening of the accusation during deliberations. I also believe it could end up as a hung jury and then I think the judge will declare a mistrial with prejudice in favor of the defense. |
| Posted by: Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-11-19 01:12 |
| #2 Rittenhouse VERDICT WATCH: Has Jury Foreperson Gone Rogue And Holding Back Acquittal? |
| Posted by: Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 2021-11-19 00:47 |
| #1 The time the jury is taking reaching a verdict seems far too long. I suspect there is a small minority of jurors blocking a unanimous decision, and this may lead to a "hung jury". This is not a problem of the US Justice system but hinges on the members of the jury. Actually the US electorate is as much a problem as the its government has become. Biden's approvers and "Duh" raters are still 47 percent! Get a few of them on any jury and beware. |
| Posted by: Bubba Lover of the Faeries8843 2021-11-19 00:22 |