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| 2021-11-04 |
| [ZH] U.S. Military Gets Walloped In Exercise In a recent training exercise in California, British Royal Marines beat their U.S. Marine opponents so soundly that the U.S. Marines asked for a mulligan halfway through the exercise. Afterwards, a Twitter spat about the exercise, between a former U.S. Marine officer and a current U.S. Army officer/planner/"rescue dog mom" exposed some of the rot within the U.S. military. More on that below, but first a quick correction on a previous post. If you go to the link, be aware that under a bold heading Correcting a chart is some stuff that has nothing to do with the linked article. Editing be difficult... Twilight In The Desert As the Daily Mail reported, Exercise Green Dagger ended in a humiliating result for the U.S. Marine Corps: Royal Marines commandos 'dominated' US troops and forced them into a humiliating surrender just days into a mass training exercise in the Mojave desert, it has been revealed today. British forces took part in a five-day mock battle at the US Marine Corps' Twentynine Palms base in southern California, one of the largest military training areas in the world, and achieved a decisive victory against their American counterparts. The Royal Marines, along with allied forces from Canada, the Netherlands and the UAE, destroyed or rendered inoperable nearly every US asset and finished the exercise holding more than 65 per cent of the training area, after beginning with less than 20 per cent. [...] Seeing no opportunity for victory, American combatants asked for the exercise to be 'reset' halfway through the five-day exercise, having taken significant casualties from British commandos. |
| Posted by:M. Murcek |
| #7 ....NTC lessons learned were synthesized into various publications and After Action Reports were archived at the Center for Army Lessons Learned. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2021-11-04 13:58 |
| #6 Visiting 'blue teams' very seldom won at the National Training Center against the home team OPFOR. You learn through failure. In addition, the OPFOR was doing this several times a year, while the visitors wouldn't go through it but once every three years at most. Train, Train, Train. Meanwhile, the personnel in those visiting teams usually rotated to new assignments in those three year, but they took their experience with them. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2021-11-04 13:54 |
| #5 And that article is trash. It's mostly obsessing over Twitter garbage, rather than giving any deeper information about the exercise. |
| Posted by: Rob Crawford 2021-11-04 13:50 |
| #4 magpie -- the rules of the exercise are the critical detail. And the reset makes sense; once an exercise passes the point of being able to teach you anything, why waste time playing it out to the conclusion? Reset, try again, and learn something new. |
| Posted by: Rob Crawford 2021-11-04 13:48 |
| #3 I would be curious to know if the Marines were playing the bad guys and using Chinese or Russian tactics against the allies. That sort of thing seems more likely than both sides having a sports like scrimage when they are unlikely to ever actually fight each other. |
| Posted by: ruprecht 2021-11-04 12:44 |
| #2 One thing I read about WW2 was that whenever the Marines had a real botched rehearsal, the actual landing was flawless. |
| Posted by: Whaviling Bourbon9537 2021-11-04 10:38 |
| #1 Whatever... Clickbait title. Not the first time I've read of one of these "multinational exercises" where the US troops got walloped. I expect that quite a bit of "diplomacy" is involved with these dog n' pony shows to make the visiting countries leave without being embarrassed. |
| Posted by: magpie 2021-11-04 10:04 |