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Minneapolis City Council committee moves forward with amendment to replace police department
2021-07-24
[FOX9] A Minneapolis City Council committee pushed forward on Wednesday with a measure that would give the voters power to replace the city police department.

The amendment proposed and submitted by the advocacy group "Yes 4 Minneapolis Committee" calls for public safety to have a "comprehensive public health approach" but does not explain what that means.

Under the plan, the police department would be replaced in the charter with a public safety department but doesn't outline how the department will work or be structured.

"I am persuaded that this is not going to get better with another two weeks," said Councilmember Steve Fletcher. "I'm persuaded that this language is a version of describing the intention of the petitioner and 20,000 people who signed the petition saying they want to create a significant change and that we should put it on the ballot. So I'm going to go ahead and move for approval of language as is."

The amendment was approved by the policy and government oversight committee by a vote of 11 to 2. It will now head to the full council for a vote.

If approved by the council, it will be included on the general election ballot in November.

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Posted by:Fred

#16  Thank you Deacon. Learn something every day.

They don't call it Rantburg U for nothing.
Posted by: CrazyFool   2021-07-24 15:50  

#15  As deacon pointed out, the situation as described was half right; the Nazis talked about defunding the police, sometimes, but only in the context of the politicization and centralization process that they controlled. And the brownshirts would talk about it, but they were used and disposed of when no longer needed.

My Grandfather and My Dad both had a historian friend of theirs who wrote a book on the whole process (and a lot of other stuff besides). And that was the book he recommended to me that one time when we were discussing how Chavez took control of Venezuelan society and the role the collectivos took in the process.

(you know, the guys antifa patterns themselves after).
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2021-07-24 14:30  

#14  That explains everything, Deacon. So the Left are basically Nazis. Or spiritual descendants of Hitler. And the Brown shirts probably demanded defunding the police, but the party had other better ideas for it.

Direct parallel, almost uncanny.
Posted by: Dron66046   2021-07-24 13:12  

#13  ^Hear, hear.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2021-07-24 12:55  

#12  Crirong Mussolini1765 Hermann Goering was a key leader in the Nazi party and one of the primary architects of the Nazi police state in Germany (here) . He did become Minister of the Interior in Prussia, the country’s largest and most influential state, in 1933 ( here ). It is false, however, that Goering’s “first orders were to defund and eliminate the police departments.”

Timothy Snyder, professor  of history at  Yale  University specializing in the history of Central and Eastern Europe and the Holocaust ( here ), told Reuters via email that the claims made in the posts are “absolutely baseless.”

After the Enabling Act of 1933 ( here ) ceded almost all political authority to Hitler, Snyder laid out four key actions that took place with regards to German policing. Firstly, the highly decentralized police departments were brought under a unified central command. Secondly, “the unified police forces were then placed under the same ultimate command as the SS” (the acronym for the infamous “Schutzstaffel” paramilitary group, here ). Thirdly, led by Heinrich Himmler, the SS officers were brought into the police (comprised of the Ordnungspolizei (orpo) "regular police", the Sicherheitspolizei (Sipo) "security police” which initially included the Gestapo, and the Sicherheitsdienst (SD) "security service”). Finally, “police were trained to understand crime as a matter of race,” the result of which, Snyder explained, “was the creation of a police force that took active part in the Holocaust.”
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2021-07-24 12:47  

#11  Their crap is spilling out into our suburbs. Trust me when I tell you the folks north of the Twin Cities are pissed and armed. For good reason.
Posted by: Woodrow   2021-07-24 12:42  

#10  
Posted by: Crirong Mussolini1765   2021-07-24 12:18  

#9  If they vote in favor of such a poorly defined idea, the people of Minneapolis are certain to get what they deserve. A better idea would be to recall the mayor and all of the members of the city council. I mean, if you're gonna start all over, start from the top.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2021-07-24 12:17  

#8  Draft random citizens for compulsory service in the "sheriff's posse"...
See if they like being shot at for no pay.
Posted by: magpie   2021-07-24 09:56  

#7  The voters are getting what they voted for. And if crime and murders skyrocket, they are getting their votes good and hard.

Fuck them.
Posted by: DarthVader   2021-07-24 09:03  

#6  Very little sympathy here. The people of Minneapolis voted for the current boy mayor and city council who approve this. If they vote in this nonsense in November, well, then, they deserve what they get.
Posted by: Tom   2021-07-24 08:46  

#5  tax paying citizens helped this shit happen. fuck em. Time to quit playing nice and get that out of your system and say fuck these ppl.
Posted by: Chris   2021-07-24 02:34  

#4  I'm of two minds about this. On one hand, it is a really stupid idea and will probably turn out even worse than expected. On the other hand, I believe in the experimental method. So let's try it and see. (voice from peanut gallery: it's a stupid idea!) Sure the tax-paying citizens of Minneapolis will be boned, but we will gain a useful data point and the next time someone proposes getting rid of the cops, we can look at them and ask, "Like in Minneapolis?"

My favorite part is this:
Under the plan, the police department would be replaced in the charter with a public safety department but doesn't outline how the department will work or be structured.
They obviously put a lot of time into coming up with this totally genius plan. Whatever it is exactly.
Posted by: SteveS   2021-07-24 02:23  

#3  I'm hearing Dylan's song "Idiot Wind"...
Posted by: CrazyFool   2021-07-24 01:43  

#2  Maybe they can coax Bob Dylan out of retirement so he can play them folk songs to calm them down.
Posted by: Raj   2021-07-24 01:00  

#1  shut down the 911 system first and all communications. Get the cops out of the building while they vote.
Posted by: Chris   2021-07-24 00:45  

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