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Olde Tyme Religion
Islam has an Apostasy Spike In its Core
2020-09-15
In seeking an answer to Islam's failure, Islamic revivalist movements proliferated over the last two centuries with the aim of restoring past successes. From Wahhabism to al Qaeda, ISIS to Tablighi Jamaat, fundamentalist movements insisted that glory could be restored to Islam by "implement[ing] Allah's laws faithfully," and "every .... human problem would be solved."

However, wherever Islamism has gained power, "the results have not been impressive." The list of failures is long when considering rule under the Taliban, the Iranian revolution, the Muslim Brotherhood's failed government in Egypt, Erdogan's Turkey, Algeria's failed Islamic revival, and the former Sudanese regime's jihad on its own people. "The harder revivalist movements struggled to promote the success of Islam, the more evidence they seem to provide of Islam's inability to solve the human problem." ...

While it is true that there are many converts to Islam in the West, this is because the utopian ideal does not conflict with a dystopian reality. For similar reasons, second generation Muslim immigrants in the West are often more eager than their parents to embrace Islamic revivalism because they didn't directly experience "the failure of Islam" firsthand. "[I]f you've lived under the boot of [a] revolutionary Islamic regime in Iran, you have a much more realistic view of the effect of Islam on a nation."
Posted by:lord garth

#7  Myth of the Andalusian Paradise
Dario Fernandez-Morera
Posted by: swksvolFF   2020-09-15 18:12  

#6  In the west they expanded over areas the Visogoths had already beaten down. I don't know as much about the eastern expansion.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2020-09-15 17:46  

#5   When Islam gained power initially they did fairly well. Probably the result of breaking the status quo in the newly conquered lands and letting talented "commoner" show their talents. Once the social order settled (like concrete...) the pace of innovation died off again.
Posted by: magpie   2020-09-15 14:48  

#4  Boron in its nukes?
Posted by: Glenmore   2020-09-15 12:06  

#3  When Islam gained power initially they did fairly well. Conquered half the world and held it for centuries (Yeah, they were violent from day one). Back then they didn't simply burn knowledge discovered by others but embraced it.

Shame at being left behind by the west, and the resulting not-invented here mentality that resulted, combined with inbreeding have made them the mess they are now.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2020-09-15 10:29  

#2  Islam has a stick up its a$$.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2020-09-15 04:46  

#1  That's what happens when you get too serious about a book that was written by a book that was written by a guy that today would either be confined to a mental institution, standing on a street corner panhandling while writing on the sidewalk with a crayon, or a key figure in the Democrat party.
Posted by: gorb   2020-09-15 01:45  

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