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It's 'Dangerous' for Parents to Have 'Authoritarian Control' Over Their Kids
2020-04-22
[CBN] A Harvard Law professor raised eyebrows with comments critical of homeschooling in America, calling for a "presumptive ban" on the practice and taking it a step further, claiming it is "dangerous" for parents to have "authoritarian control over their children" from ages zero to 18.

Harvard’s Elizabeth Bartholet was extensively quoted in an article published on Harvard Magazine’s website titled "The Risks of Homeschooling."

The article begins with an image of what appears to be a homeschooled child inside a home with bars on the window while other children run around outside playing.

Readers pointed out the irony in this image, noting that it’s homeschoolers who are more flexible in their schedules and able to experience society and life at their leisure while students in public school are forced to stay in a building.

The article employs and appeals to many common anti-homeschooling tropes in lieu of relevant factual and statistical information. For starters, Bartholet demeans homeschooling as depriving children of a "meaningful education" while claiming it would keep them from "contributing positively to a democratic society."
Note the "Arithmatic" book?
Posted by:Besoeker

#25  Of course it is!
They'll come back and get you if you don't boot them out of the house by late puberty.
Posted by: Skidmark   2020-04-22 19:22  

#24  They're being deprived of their indoctrination and grooming raw material.

It's very upsetting for them.

That said, these trial balloons always end up becoming policy initiatives at some point, so look for this "presumptive ban" to become a thing pretty soon.

As an aid to that effort, I bet there'll be lots of narrative-shaping stories about child abuse in the time of lockdown within the next few months.
Posted by: charger   2020-04-22 18:15  

#23  All I know - having taught school - most school teachers are incompetent: both in the subject matter they're supposed to teach and in dealing with kids. In fact, I'll go with Jerry Pournelle "schools are for teachers, not students".
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2020-04-22 14:20  

#22  I read a little about her. Seems like an altruist sort.

These are the worst.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2020-04-22 14:17  

#21  A law professor should be capable of more detached, careful, fact-based analysis though. The myth that homeschoolers are fire-breathing flat-worlders was put to rest at least a decade ago. Plenty of briefs from court cases attest to this.
Posted by: Lex   2020-04-22 14:14  

#20  She may just be the two-faced sort who turns around genuine issues to service the Dem agenda. With Harvard, that's some kind of a criteria now.
Posted by: Dron66046   2020-04-22 14:08  

#19  I read a little about her. Seems like an altruist sort. Her mostly genuine concern is for children of abusive, bad parents. In her line of work, with victimized children she must have seen an abundance of maddening cases. I can understand.

There are some bad people, posing as parents in the world. Of course, it'd be daft to systematize the separation of every child just to be sure, but that's where the lines blur. We live in a very grey world, gentlemen.
Posted by: Dron66046   2020-04-22 14:05  

#18  Domo Raj
Posted by: g(r)omgoru PB   2020-04-22 13:57  

#17  thx Mike
Posted by: Lex   2020-04-22 13:32  

#16  G(r)om - I spent a few minutes trying to find that out; so far, no mention of a family, so I'm gonna go out on a limb and say no.
Posted by: Raj   2020-04-22 13:29  

#15  Lex, I looked it up. Based on some rankings, it produces a lot of Applied Math majors, and came in at number one. Also:

"The Stony Brook AMS major has also been ranked for several years as one of the top five U.S. undergraduate programs in applied mathematics by College Factual, as cited in USA Today. The 2020 ranking is:

CalTech 1st, Brown 2nd , Stony Brook 3rd , Stanford 4th, and Harvard 5th .

This ranking is based on earnings of graduates, quality of faculty in the department and related departments, and popularity among students."

Best I could find.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike   2020-04-22 12:58  

#14  Sorry no. I only really know what I saw or experienced. KBK might be a more current source. Just guessing though.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike   2020-04-22 12:51  

#13  Bitch has kids of her own?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2020-04-22 12:25  

#12  Thanks, Mike
Do you have any info on Stony Brook's Math Dept.?
Posted by: Lex   2020-04-22 11:48  

#11  Intro Calc for poets at MIT is a hoot.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike   2020-04-22 11:47  

#10  All of the undergraduate calculus was reputed to be okay. I placed out of all the intro math because I took it at MIT (18.01, 18.02, 18.03, etc. Note that I had a hard time initially). I spent my time in advanced calc, topology, quaternionic analysis, etc. I had delusions of using it at Northrop in inertial guidance systems, my intended first job, but they ended up using me to fix everything that was broken. I really liked MIT's approach better, to be honest. Where else would you get to TA for George Thomas? I was his black sheep. He told me that the best way to learn something was to have to teach it. He was right. Advanced classes are Very small at either school. I remember RPI being touted as good as well. I am not a good source of current info though.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike   2020-04-22 11:45  

#9  Laziest in-graphic I've come across in a long time. Well, since New Yorker had the nurse in PPE dinking her glove hands on her touchscreen PED.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2020-04-22 10:53  

#8  Also check out the Bible
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2020-04-22 10:33  

#7  Mike - which Math? Asking for my son a friend
Posted by: Lex   2020-04-22 10:30  

#6  If it wasn't obvious, I was being sarcastic. Any of the hard sciences, and 50% of the math were good.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike   2020-04-22 10:22  

#5  She is Harvard Law, which is 95% commie/fascist/moonbat. Contrast this to Harvard College, which is ~85% commie/fascist/moonbat. Pick the right major (Physics and/or Chemistry) and you'll hardly get a whiff of them.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike   2020-04-22 10:16  

#4  I remember walking through part of Harvard when my buddy Mike and I came upon a statue:

Me - 'Who's this asshole?'

Mike - 'That's John Harvard. He founded the university in 1630.'

Me - 'Uh, let's just keep going...'
Posted by: Raj   2020-04-22 09:38  

#3  Check out her digs in Cambridge. Not exactly up to Lizzie Warren standards, but close enough!
Posted by: Raj   2020-04-22 09:35  

#2  This is why you shouldn't trust the "Experts" that only sit and "teach" or do "Think tanks" instead of actually doing things.
Posted by: DarthVader   2020-04-22 09:25  

#1  Harvard University again is it ?
Posted by: Besoeker   2020-04-22 08:48  

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