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Pakistan says it shot down 2 Indian warplanes, shut down its airspace
2019-02-27
[FoxNews] Tensions between two of the world's nuclear powers were raised dramatically Wednesday after Pakistan's air force said it shot down two Indian warplanes that crossed the disputed Kashmir border and captured each of the aircraft's pilots.

Police officials in Indian-occupied Kashmir told Reuters two Indian pilots and a civilian on the ground died when the planes crashed. The officials did not confirm the planes were shot down by Pakistani forces.

Raveesh Kumar, a spokesman for India's Ministry of External Affairs, also claimed an Indian plane shot down a Pakistani fighter jet -- although Pakistan denied any of its jets had been hit and photographic evidence had yet to emerge.
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#17  newc how do i get into your discord server?
Posted by: rammer   2019-02-27 22:52  

#16  You heard wrong.
Posted by: newc   2019-02-27 21:55  

#15  ....but but dog fights are a thing of the past or so I was told.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2019-02-27 21:18  

#14  Dog Fight. One of both shot down
Posted by: newc   2019-02-27 20:36  

#13  What were the Pakistani airplanes or were the Indian planes shot down by ground to air missles?
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2019-02-27 20:02  

#12  You may Discuss and chat #india and #Pakistan #War and #Venezuela in chat on #Discord

#venezuelan-crisis-2019
Posted by: newc   2019-02-27 19:24  

#11  India also operates an extensively upgraded version of the antiquated MiG-21 called the Bison, which has proven to be surprisingly effective—if crash prone. With their upgraded Phazotron Kopyo radar—which is capable of simultaneously tracking eight targets—the Indian MiG-21s are able to attack targets beyond visual range with Russian-made Vympel R-77 radar-guided missiles.

The Indian MiG-21s also incorporate helmet mounted cueing systems and the ability to carry the R-73 Archer dogfighting missile. That combination makes the aged jet a formidable adversary close in even against a much more modern aircraft. In fact, the Indians MiG-21s fared well even against Boeing F-15C Eagle during a Cope India exercise in 2004 —granted the U.S. Air Force was operating with restrictive rules of engagement.

However, while the Romanian and Indian MiGs were upgraded with new avionics, not much was done to upgrade their airframe structure. But conceivably, the even the ancient MiG-21 would still be viable with a refurbished airframe and cutting edge avionics. While no nations has opted to do that, Israel made a deal to supply fourteen refurbished and extensively modernized Israel Aerospace Industries F-21 Kfir fighters to Argentina—which is also a forty-year-old platform. The airframe is being completely refurbished to an almost “new” state and the aircraft’s General Electric J79 turbojets will be supplied in a “zero-hour” condition after a complete overhaul, according to my colleague Arie Egozi at Flight International. An engine replacement/overhaul would be required after 1,600 flight hours.
Posted by: 3dc   2019-02-27 18:53  

#10  India's Mig 21 were rebuilt in Israel. They are not Stalin's Mig 21s
Upgrade your Air Force on the cheap
Posted by: 3dc   2019-02-27 18:52  

#9  Weren't for Rantburg, I wouldn't even know.

Mig-21s? Ah, the vaunted Dust Bunny Squadron.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2019-02-27 13:54  

#8  Will Dhimmicrats denounce India attacking its Muzzie neighbor as raccccist!
Posted by: Woodrow   2019-02-27 13:31  

#7  #4. Denver Post covered it with about 12 column inches.
Posted by: Large Gurly-Brown3231   2019-02-27 13:17  

#6  The Times of India is liveblogging here. Mostly stuff politicians said, but still.

The Daily Mail’s article on the subject has been updating here.
Posted by: trailing wife   2019-02-27 12:29  

#5  ....but, but TRUMP!

We don't have 'news' organizations. Infotainment propaganda mills of the commies, but no news organizations.

The appropriate old Soviet saying - There is no truth in the news and no news in the truth.

Posted by: Procopius2k   2019-02-27 11:55  

#4  It's amazing to me how little MSM coverage this is getting. I suppose actual journalism would be required.
Posted by: Matt   2019-02-27 10:50  

#3  Mig-21s... flying museums.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam   2019-02-27 10:43  

#2  India acknowledged the loss of a MIG-21 which crashed in Pakistan controlled territory. Pakistan claims to have captured the pilot of that aircraft.

It seems the other plane (probably also a MIG) went down in Indian controlled territory and the casualties reported are from that crash.
Posted by: lord garth   2019-02-27 09:58  

#1  Sounds like two kids.

"I got you!"
"Nuh-uh! I got you!"
"No you didn't!"
Posted by: DarthVader   2019-02-27 09:02  

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