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Home Front: Politix
Now Pelosi owns the shutdown.
2019-01-23
Good read by Stephen Moore, formally of the WSJ.
[Townhall] On Saturday, Donald Trump shrewdly flipped the table on Nancy Pelosi in the government shutdown standoff. He has now proposed a grand bargain on immigration: legalization of some 1 million so-called Dreamers -- the foreigners who were brought into the U.S. illegally by their parents -- and an immediate end to the shutdown, if she agrees to expand funding to $5.7 billion for the wall.

It's the kind of checkmate political maneuver that may guarantee his re-election.

It's smart because it now puts the onus on Pelosi to open the government. It also puts the pressure on Pelosi to act on immigration reform. For 25 years, Democrats have preferred to politicize the immigration issue -- and treat Hispanic voters as political hostages -- rather than agree to a bipartisan solution to deal with the 10 million illegal immigrants residing in the U.S.

There's no good option for Pelosi now.
Posted by:Besoeker

#28  @#27: Your analysis guarantees you a "shakedown" slot in a re-education center...

I'll save you a seat.
Posted by: Anomalous Sources   2019-01-23 21:15  

#27  I just had to cancel an urgent order worth 75,000 US$ because nobody in the U.S. processes the papers for customs and the order can't be shipped.

Wonder when that kicks in for imports? May have to buy stock in US manufacturers.
Posted by: Daffy the Rasher2871   2019-01-23 18:17  

#26  We'll see what happens when the tax returns are due...

Deadlines won't be enforced. Taxpayers won't be further fined and fleeced. People cheer. Quiet panic ensues in Washington DC.
Posted by: Daffy the Rasher2871   2019-01-23 18:13  

#25  We'll see what happens when the tax returns are due...
Posted by: European Conservative   2019-01-23 16:53  

#24  AH - so far it looks like most people want the government to stay shut down.
Posted by: Glenmore   2019-01-23 16:09  

#23  I am still waiting for voters to picket the offices of their own Congresspeople about the shutdown.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2019-01-23 14:59  

#22  we may be Yugoslavia in two years. It's beyond so many peoples comprehension how likely that is. Just look at the hate
My late father did some kind of cultural & business related promotion for the Rotarians in eastern Europe shortly before Yugoslavia blew up. He could speak Polish well & could somehow communicate with other speakers of Slavic tongues. He told me he thought Yugoslavia was a beautiful place, its people were very capable even if burdened by their form of government, but he was puzzled and concerned by how desperately unhappy most of the people he met seemed to be. It alarmed him. When civil strife later broke out, I understood what he meant.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2019-01-23 14:58  

#21   Personally I am beginning to wonder if the US system will still function on Election Day 2020.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2019-01-23 14:53  

#20  It is LIKELY he will be re-elected. The war the dems raged against him from day one is an indicator.
Posted by: Besoeker   2019-01-23 13:39  

#19  #10 I don't think Trump will get re-elected. I don't say it's impossible, but just not very likely.

IMO, it's very possible for a DJT re-election. How many Dems are either running or considering running? There will likely be much carnage in the Dem primary getting to the main election. Trump has accomplished many of his promises already. The Dems don't have anyone running who can beat Trump at this time. I don't think Mueller has anything that will change things. The Dems have the Albatross of the Obama's administration's criminalty hanging around their necks. Obama is probably off the campaign trail. Hillary and others may be under indictment.
Posted by: JohnQC   2019-01-23 12:52  

#18  Here's what happened the last time the government shutdown. This link goes to ABC which I do NOT regard as a reliable source of information but the bottom line is correct: Republicans caved during the last government shutdown and Baraq got his way. Why is it that the Republicans are always the ones who are expected to blink? Baraq did not blink but he did not endure any scorn from the mainstream media like Trump is enduring now. Why? Let the donks blink this time.

European Conservative, you can blame anybody you want. You can place your order in Taiwan. This is national security for us. We need a wall. Unlike Merkel, we believe our borders must be secured because without them we will cease to be a nation.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2019-01-23 12:41  

#17  EC - Taiwan is good product.
I visit every once in awhile...
Posted by: 3dc   2019-01-23 12:35  

#16  Btw there's an easy solution: Lower the threshold for cloture on appropriations bills to a simple majority in the Senate.

But see my point in #10. I guess McConnell does.
Posted by: European Conservative   2019-01-23 11:13  

#15  It could happen in two years.

The way the hate is being fanned, we may be Yugoslavia in two years. It's beyond so many peoples comprehension how likely that is. Just look at the hate. How long till enough is enough?
Posted by: Procopius2k   2019-01-23 11:12  

#14  M. Murcek

Taiwan actually. My deadline is February 1st, so I had no choice.
Posted by: European Conservative   2019-01-23 11:05  

#13  Democrats doan need no steenking precedents, EC. They make shit up as they go. SCOTUS needs RBG gone and one more constitutionalist replacing her
Posted by: Frank G   2019-01-23 10:55  

#12  We can pretty well guess Iran didn't fill the complainer's order, so that pretty well leaves China. Enjoy the quality, whatever you bought...
Posted by: M. Murcek   2019-01-23 10:48  

#11  On which precedents Obama relied, EC?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2019-01-23 10:46  

#10  One thing you don't seem to think about much: Trump is setting lots of precedents which may come back to hurt you. He won't be president forever.

Imagine a new Democratic president using the same tactics to enact "Kamalacare" or "Warrencare".

It could happen in two years. I don't think Trump will get re-elected. I don't say it's impossible, but just not very likely.
Posted by: European Conservative   2019-01-23 10:44  

#9  Good for you
Posted by: Frank G   2019-01-23 10:36  

#8  @Frank G

"your parochial economic interests."
Mine? Yours. I ordered elsewhere. Guaranteed delivery next week.
Posted by: European Conservative   2019-01-23 10:33  

#7  Trumps approval among Latino's is going up. If that continues Pelosi will scramble to find an excuse to end the stalemate without looking like she was totally played.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2019-01-23 10:28  

#6  Trump understands the left's game (Saul Alinsky strategies) and is better at it than them. He lived and did business in NY.
Posted by: JohnQC   2019-01-23 10:23  

#5  Sorry, not sorry, EC. The border security concerns override your parochial economic interests.
Posted by: Frank G   2019-01-23 10:21  

#4  Frankly I don't care who "owns" it. Get your act together already.

I just had to cancel an urgent order worth 75,000 US$ because nobody in the U.S. processes the papers for customs and the order can't be shipped. That's ridiculous.
Posted by: European Conservative   2019-01-23 09:09  

#3  6 Reasons Why 'Starship Troopers' Is the New 'The Art of War'
Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspiracy   2019-01-23 08:36  

#2  Robert A. Heinlein's Starship Troopers is looking better and better.
Posted by: Tyranysaurus McGurque5763   2019-01-23 08:32  

#1  Doubtful... Pelosi will just keep repeating "Orange Man bad", like a modern day Goebbels, and the MSM will echo it. In six months it will have been "All Trumps Fault!"
Posted by: magpie   2019-01-23 04:30  

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