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Home Front: Politix
Trump won't lose in a long shutdown
2019-01-07
[JWR] We're into Day 13 of the partial government shutdown, and there's no end in sight. Common wisdom says the longer this lasts, the worse the politics will get for President Donald Trump. I disagree.

Trump isn't likely to suffer politically because he's not doing anything his supporters find objectionable. A Quinnipiac poll last month found that 43 percent of Americans, including 86 percent of Republicans and 45 percent of independents, support building the wall. Support for the wall is so high among Trump supporters that even Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, said this week that he supports it while blasting the president's character in a Washington Post commentary. When your most prominent internal critic supports your position, you know you're dealing from strength.

Now that Democrats run the House, they will increasingly bear some political responsibility for ending the crisis. Americans generally want both sides to cut deals in the national interest, and that's likely to be as true in this case as in others. People didn't want the government to be shut down, but now that it is, they're likely to want a deal to get it back open. That plays into Trump's hands - as long as he demonstrates that he's willing to deal, too.
Posted by:Besoeker

#20  Trump's request for prime time for a possible Declaration of National Emergency has the MSM wrapped around a lose-lose axle. Much gnashing of teeth as he again takes his message to the American people or forces the MSM to clearly demonstrate bias. Look for "equal time" and long commentary if they grant his request. Seems to me they all have FCC licenses somewhere in their beginnings? Facts and figures and more popcorn please...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/air-or-not-air-networks-face-pressure-over-broadcasting-trump-n955846
Posted by: NoMoreBS   2019-01-07 16:35  

#19  You can't blame Trump. A bill has to reach his desk. It is up to the House and Senate to agree first.

Seems to me that the donk's are treating their constituents with their usual disdain.
Posted by: Crash Dark Lord of the Veal Cutlets1879   2019-01-07 16:07  

#18  I suspect the ones that complain the loudest are those who are on the dole.
Posted by: gorb   2019-01-07 15:41  

#17  Yet Joe paid out of his own pocket, Trump should too...the billionaire he is.

While Trump tries to blackmail hard-working American Tax Payers to pay for something he promised Mexico would pay for.
Posted by: Flusogum Slemble9878   2019-01-07 15:20  

#16  Yep, tear down that wall.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2019-01-07 15:14  

#15  
Posted by: Flusogum Slemble9878   2019-01-07 15:04  

#14  This place used to attract a better class of trolls. The current lot are simply embarrassing.
Posted by: Speamble Elmeack5265   2019-01-07 14:43  

#13  Which wall? The wall to keep people in or the wall to keep people out?
Posted by: gorb   2019-01-07 14:39  

#12  Oversized Reagan 'Tear_Down_This_Wall' photo deleted.
Posted by: Flusogum Slemble9878   2019-01-07 14:35  

#11  so F all ATC controllers who work without pay is Rantburgs position on things.... as expected, greedy old hypocrites who cry when their turn comes up ... and it will.

Point taken. Perhaps they should simply walk off their jobs.
Posted by: Besoeker   2019-01-07 14:19  

#10   so F all ATC controllers who work without pay is Rantburgs position on things.... as expected, greedy old hypocrites who cry when their turn comes up ... and it will.
Posted by: Andy Jush7808   2019-01-07 14:10  

#9  Let's see military retirement checks stop too and see how well you can spin that.

The military and all pensions are part of the 70% of government spending that is approved through the end of the year, dear Flusogum Slemble9878.

Given how often the government has been shut down over passing a president-acceptable budget in the past five years, any federal employee who doesn’t have at least six months of savings readily accessible at year end is just asking for problems. Seriously, my darling father-in-law was a steel worker; he spent the first decade of Mr. Wife’s life as much on strike as he did actually working, and yet they still managed to save up and buy a house plus get a new car every to years. His rule, as he explained to me on my wedding day, was to save the first 25% of each paycheck, then adjust spending to live on the rest. While for those not making union wages that might well be impossible, federal workers are unionized.
Posted by: trailing wife   2019-01-07 13:42  

#8  my air controller friends without pay aren’t loving him anymore.
Too bad, so sad. If they can't take the heat, they can get out of the kitchen. Those "friends" are more than welcome to seek employment in the private sector. All the fast food outlets for miles around are begging for help, signs are up everywhere.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2019-01-07 13:21  

#7  trolls are thick lately. Well they are always rather thick, but I meant they are appearing quite frequently since Pelsoi became speaker.
Posted by: Glolush Whusotch4899   2019-01-07 12:37  

#6  "Tough noogies" for your Wall then...LOL

Should have saved up for the wall 24 months ago.
Posted by: Victor Emmanuel Trotsky3550   2019-01-07 12:04  

#5  ...my air controller friends without pay aren’t loving him anymore.

Tough noogies for your ATC friends. There are plenty of military air traffic controllers if it comes to that. And...we can always reduce the number of flights if needed.

What Mr. B said, keep at LEAST 12 months living expenses in reserve. I keep 24 months, it required sacrifice and delayed gratification in numerous areas, but having the cushion is great peace of mind.
Posted by: Beldar Forkbeard4865   2019-01-07 10:34  

#4  90% of the bureaucracy voted for HRC.
Posted by: JohnQC   2019-01-07 09:43  

#3  #2 - Here's most people would say to that: F*ck You, Pay Me!

Let's see military retirement checks stop too and see how well you can spin that.
Posted by: Flusogum Slemble9878   2019-01-07 09:22  

#2  .... my air controller friends without pay aren’t loving him anymore.

These people make an excellent wage and I believe they still have medical coverage. Rule of thumb - have enough socked away to live for at least 12 months without an income.
Posted by: Besoeker   2019-01-07 08:49  

#1  Hannity thinks the State is the Union is a long time from now, Dems can hold out to 2020 because Trump took the mantle and proudly owns the shutdown. Let’s see how things are this Friday, my air controller friends without pay aren’t loving him anymore.
Posted by: Andy Jush7808   2019-01-07 08:40  

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