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| German minister: Mistakes made in Chemnitz suspects’ cases |
| 2018-09-05 |
| [IsraelTimes] Poor communication between authorities caused asylum-seekers not to be deported before they slayed man in Chemnitz, sparking widespread protests Mistakes were made Passive voice translates as "The Gods were being whimsical and we are all at their mercy. See Homer, The Trojan War, verses 1 through the end. Active voice would have been: "Karl-Heinz, Fritz, Helmut und Dietrich were talking about going fishing and lost control of things. They have been demoted and reassigned to German Research Station Number One in Anarctica, schweeping up penguin poop!" See? There's some kinda difference between the two, ain't there? in the cases of two asylum-seekers accused in the slaying of a German man which sparked large-scale far-right protests, Germany’s top security official said Tuesday. Interior Minister Horst Seehofer said Tuesday that poor communication between Germany’s migration office and other authorities meant the deadline was missed to return Iraqi Yousif A. to Bulgaria, the country responsible for his case under European rules that say Seehofer said there were also cooperation issues between authorities in the case of Syrian Alaa S. He said changes he has instituted in how Germany deals with "Such delays and mistakes need to be prevented," he said in a statement. The men, whose last names weren’t disclosed, are being held on manslaughter charges in the August 26 fatal stabbing of 35-year-old Daniel Hillig, which sparked anti-migrant protests in the city of Chemnitz that shocked many in Germany and beyond. On Tuesday Saxony state authorities said they are seeking a third suspect in the killing, identified only as an asylum-seeker from Iraq. Seehofer’s comments came after he met Monday with the head of Germany’s migration office. In another issue that came up, Seehofer said Yousif A. presented an Iraqi passport, citizenship documents, and a national identity card to authorities on November 7, 2017. Those were determined to be fakes, but not until June 15, 2018. He said that was due to a shortfall in highly specialized document experts available at the migration office ‐ an issue Seehofer said had already been identified and is being rectified. |
| Posted by:trailing wife |
| #7 EH I forgot to add that receiving a sentence of 10 years means that you might actually serve less than 7 years. People in Kandel are NOT happy |
| Posted by: European Conservative 2018-09-05 20:14 |
| #6 Slightly off topic: I stand corrected by European Conservative regarding the maximum penalty for the Kandel murderer. I had read that the medical expert report had stated that the Afghan's most likely age was 20. I had then incorrectly assumed that he was being tried as a 20 y/o. The report however gave his minimal age as 17.5 which is the age the court recognized. |
| Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660 2018-09-05 12:07 |
| #5 The (Soviet/East Germany sponsored) terror campaigns affected very few people directly. Europe wasn't being flooded with millions of fanatical communists at the time. Chemnitz or even the Berlin rape case aren't terrorism in the narrow sense. These are acts committed by people who subjectively perceive themselves as conquerors who are lording over the defeated civilian populace. The civilian populace of course disagrees with this view. Again, Chemnitz wasn't terrorism. It was a rather ordinary murder of a German man committed by refugees. Had there been no protests there's no way this would have made national or international news. The public would never have learned that the suspected attackers should have been deported years ago or that literally nothing is known about their identity. Only the protests made the difference. |
| Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660 2018-09-05 11:35 |
| #4 There seems to be an acceptance in Europe that a certain level of terroristic violence is unpreventable, and therefore must be endured. I remember back in the 1980s, when Mr. Wife did not tell me until later about the Communists throwing bombs into Paris cafés one summer, and whoever it was that blew up the main post office in Athens shortly after he left, and came alongside the overfull island ferry with machine guns, raking the decks from stern to stem. I started paying close attention to the international news because I needd to know when and where to worry about him when he was away. Now the terroristic threats come from those poor unfortunates who fled difficult circumstances in the Middle East, Asia, and Africa, but from a certain perspective the overall threat level hasn’t much changed, so why fuss? |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2018-09-05 11:16 |
| #3 Basically, no process is being followed, no checks are being made, and no evictions are being made. That's my impression. For the malicious elements in politics it's "known unknowns." For the non-malicious dunces like e.g. Seehofer it's "unknown unknowns." When the unknowns turn into knowns for the dunces they apologize. The malicious ones are utterly unapologetic. this can only be an attack on the German people. And Europe and the West in general. (Bataclan, Turku, Amsterdam, Paris police station attack) |
| Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660 2018-09-05 10:01 |
| #2 Basically, no process is being followed, no checks are being made, and no evictions are being made. Every effort is being made to keep as many gimmigrants in Germany. Since a potential migrant has to earn above average wage to be break even (before taking into account migrants greater cultural acclimation to violence and crime), this can only be an attack on the German people. |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2018-09-05 03:29 |
| #1 Without the protests this murder would have been local news only. The public would never have found out about the fact that literally nothing is known about these individuals. Nothing, that is, beyond their allegations substantiated by forgery. Malice, not incompetence! |
| Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660 2018-09-05 02:38 |