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Home Front: Politix
Rand Paul: Trump's CIA Pick Haspel ‘Gleefully,' ‘Loved' Torture, ‘She's Absolutely Disqualified'
2018-03-15
[Breitbart] Wednesday on MSNBC’s "Live With Velshi and Ruhle," Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) said he was opposing President Donald Trump’s choice to lead the CIA, Gina Haspel, because she "loved the idea of someone being tortured."

Paul said, "One of the things I liked about President Trump is he consistently and loudly opposed regime change in Iraq, the Iraq war. He’s appointing people around him that not only support the Iraq war, never learned the lesson that regime change led to instability and chaos in the Middle East. These are people who he’s appointing Pompeo that have advocated for regime change next door. These are not people who support the notion that the Iraq war was misguided.

He continued, "On Mrs. Haspel, if you read her quotes, when she was present during waterboarding, she was gleeful at the waterboarding and sort of gloating at the fact that the guy is acting as he’s struggling to breathe and drowning in fluid. This is not what America stands for. Torture is not what America is about. I have family members in the armed service. I don’t want to send a message to the world that torture is fine. Our young men and women can be captured at some point too. If the whole world thinks America tortures prisoners, they’ll do the same to ours. This is a woman who is a poster child for what went wrong with waterboarding after 9/11. She should never ever be advanced to any position in the CIA."

He added, "There are many people, if you want a career person, someone who served in the CIA, there are dozens and dozens of people who weren’t involved with waterboarding, not directly involved with torture, that weren’t gleefully showing how much they loved the idea of someone being tortured. I think she’s absolutely disqualified. There are probably dozens of other people, I wouldn’t presume to know the individual names at the CIA, but I think we can find a career person that hasn’t tortured anybody."
Posted by:Besoeker

#15  Every time we capture a high value target from ISiS or AQ, I personally believe the ticking bomb scenario is in place.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2018-03-15 22:37  

#14  
There is no proof that Haspel saved lives.


So what?

We could have fed al'Qaeda members through wood chippers a half inch at a time and it wouldn't have violated the laws of war. I'm not even sure it would have been immoral, because those fuckers took the evil choice on every decision set before them.
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2018-03-15 21:52  

#13  If the world knew that we put our special forces through the same thing they might start to think our Special Forces have magic powers like Mossad. That would be ok in my book.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2018-03-15 19:22  

#12  Shut up, Rand. JUST SHUT THE HELL UP.
Posted by: Dave D.   2018-03-15 19:18  

#11  I'm sure the humans pulverized in the Twin Tower collapse feel for your ethics Sen. Paul. /s

If the enemy has no use for rules, then you should give on to them what they have given to others. That they understand.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2018-03-15 16:42  

#10  She sounds like my kind of woman, then again Texans have always had a soft spot for mean bitches.
Posted by: brujotejano   2018-03-15 15:11  

#9  According to RICH LOWRY the excerpt from the book that Rand quotes doesn't refer to Gina Haspel.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2018-03-15 14:13  

#8  Go F yourself Rand Paul.
You are not in the game and you are an idiot.
You just helped us lose an election. Go Away
Posted by: newc   2018-03-15 14:01  

#7  Seems to me that when you are a participant in war, actively engaging in operations against a nation and its people, and you are a member of another nation, or affiliated and allied with them in such activities, and you wear a uniform or some form of identifying markings, you should be treated as a legitimate prisoner of war and afforded the protections of the Geneva Conventions. When you are not such a person, you should not expect due process or anything except the wraith of the nation for your use of deception to gain advantage. I for one, think this is a reasonable policy.
Posted by: NoMoreBS   2018-03-15 12:41  

#6  There is no proof that Haspel saved lives.
Posted by: Tennessee   2018-03-15 11:38  

#5  There is the other view that Gina Haspel saved lives after 911. Paul tends to be the contrarian on some issues.
Posted by: JohnQC   2018-03-15 08:52  

#4  John Douglas, 9th Marquess of Queensberry meant well, but one can clearly see that his 'rules' when applied to modern warfare, are quite useless.


Posted by: Besoeker   2018-03-15 08:19  

#3  Where does he live?

He lives in D.C., the other California coast.
Posted by: Skidmark   2018-03-15 08:19  

#2  If the whole world thinks America tortures prisoners, they’ll do the same to ours.

Maybe it's not torture, maybe it's just their way.
U.S Soldier dragged through Mogadishu
Posted by: Skidmark   2018-03-15 08:18  

#1  If the whole world thinks America tortures prisoners, they’ll do the same to ours.

Where does he live?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2018-03-15 08:14  

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