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No, We Cannot Shoot Down North Korea's Missiles
2017-09-19
[DefenseOne] If North Korea cooperated and shot their new intercontinental ballistic missile, the Hwasong-14, at the United States with adequate warning so that we could prepare, and if the warhead looked pretty much like we expect it to look, and if they only shot one, and if they did not try to spoof the defense with decoys that looked like the warhead, or block the defense with low-power jammers, or hide the warhead in a cloud of chaff, or blind the defense by attacking the vulnerable radars, then, maybe this is true. The United States might have a 50-50 chance of hitting such a missile. If we had time to fire four or five interceptors, then the odds could go up.

But North Korea is unlikely to cooperate. It will do everything possible to suppress the defenses. The 1999 National Intelligence Estimate of the Ballistic Threat to the United States noted that any country capable of testing a long-range ballistic missile would "rely initially on readily available technology ‐ including separating RVs [reentry vehicles], spin-stabilized RVs, RV reorientation, radar absorbing material, booster fragmentation, low-power jammers, chaff, and simple (balloon) decoys ‐ to develop penetration aids and countermeasures."

Our anti-missile systems have never been realistically tested against any of these simple countermeasures. This is one reason that the Pentagon’s current director of operational testing is much more cautious in his assessments than missile defense program officials. "GMD has demonstrate a limited capability to defend the U.S. Homeland from small numbers of simple intermediate-range or intercontinental ballistic missile threats launched from North Korea or Iran," he reports. Moreover, it is impossible, he says, to "quantitatively assess GMD performance due to lack of ground tests" and "the reliability and availability of the operational GBI’s [Ground-Based Interceptors] is low, and the MDA continues to discover new failure modes during testing."
Posted by:Anomalous Sources

#5  And the Patriot was originally designed to intercept aircraft, not ballistic missiles.
Posted by: P2Kontheroad   2017-09-19 17:49  

#4  Ship the pieces & parts across our porous borders & reassemble them - wherever. Then issue an ultimatum for whatever.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2017-09-19 11:57  

#3  It seems that launch accidents happen often so imagining a rocket to be super-robust and able to withstand even minimal damage seems to be giving the North Koreans more credit than they deserve.

Also testing nukes in a bunker under super-controlled conditions seems to be fairly hit-and-miss for the North Koreans. Expecting a warhead to go off as planned after the jarring it would take along the journey seems to be giving the North Koreans a bit too much credit as well.

Not to say that there isn't something to fear here, but realistically the chances of one of their missiles avoiding all attempts to damage it and having it hit a distant target in shape to have the warhead explode as intended seems a bit unlikely to me. At this point.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2017-09-19 11:49  

#2  ...... he reports. Moreover, it is impossible, he says, to "quantitatively assess GMD performance due to lack of ground tests" and "the reliability and availability of the operational GBI’s [Ground-Based Interceptors] is low, and the MDA continues to discover new failure modes during testing."

Flag tossed. WTF good are they if they cannot be employed? I suspect we've been waved off. Nice array of satellite communications platforms you have there. Be a shame if anything happened to any of them.
Posted by: Besoeker   2017-09-19 08:31  

#1  ...And of course, the fact that none of the countermeasures this guy lists have been seen shouldn't stop us from panicking and surrendering.

Realistically, the Nork ICBMs are - technology wise - the equal of our first generation Minuteman missiles from the early 60s. They go up, they come down, and with a little luck they go boom. In terms of capability, right now it's a V2 with more range and accuracy.

That isn't to say that they might not develop them in the future, but they sure as hell don't have them now.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2017-09-19 05:28  

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