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| Time to ban Pit Bulls in the USA |
| 2017-05-03 |
| [American Thinker] A short time ago, a well-meaning but foolish young couple in my town adopted a "rescue" dog from New Jersey. It was a heavy (60-80 lbs) two-year-old Pit Bull. Scary, but they had attended several training sessions learning how to bond with the animal and overcame their fright by telling themselves they were doing a good thing. By "rescuing" it. I suspect that the dog needed to be "rescued" because it had previously attacked people and so was in danger of being put down, but I don't know that. Regardless, this couple seemed not to have even inquired; instead, they completed their final bonding session and took him home. But from the first night alone with the animal, they were terrified by its foreboding presence. The thing seemed to stalking them from room to room inside their home. Beyond frantic, the couple called the woman at the private shelter who had managed the adoption and asked her to take the dog back. She refused and instead offered them some advice about how to break through and made contact with the dog's inner happy puppy. Well, that night, the Pit Bull did some breaking through on his own and severely mauled the man, who, without the timely arrival of deputy sheriffs and the local Fire Department, would have died a horrible death. Just another Pit Bull story. My wife was severely bitten in the face by a Pit Bull while sitting at a client's kitchen table. Her offense? She made eye contact with the thing. My grandson was attacked and was luckily wearing clothing heavy enough to prevent injury before the Pit Bull was taken off him. A renter in a building next door would let his Pit Bull get out from time to time, and the thing would run onto my property, anxious to kill my Golden Retriever, Sparky, the friendliest dog in the world. Tired of talking to the local dog warden about the threat, I shot the Pit Bull in the butt with a .410 shotgun ‐ my mistake being that it wasn't a 12-gauge, because the thing managed to run off. My experiences are all of a piece with the spread of these "pets." |
| Posted by:Besoeker |
| #24 Bred dogs for a while. Trained a bunch of 'em. Temperament is about 75% inherited genetically. Most of the rest is due to experience up through 12 weeks of age. In nature that would be the litter and the mother interacting. Training affects behavior at the margins, not at the core, in dogs. |
| Posted by: Angusock Chuting6110 2017-05-03 18:23 |
| #23 A cat person you say ? |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2017-05-03 17:18 |
| #22 Oi vey, for obvious reasons, we never had a gun/anti-gun thread in 'Burg. So, now, we're going to have a dog/anti-dog one? Disclosure: I'm a cat person, myself. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2017-05-03 17:01 |
| #21 Handling & training Rotties, Pit Bulls, Mastiffs or other large dogs is no different than training Jack Russells, Chihuahuas, Dachshunds or the like. Given the same traning (dog & owner) the former group are usually less likely to bite than the latter. That's a bullshit logic train. "Less likely to bite" isn't the issue. Disfigurement and/or death when biting is. |
| Posted by: Crusader 2017-05-03 16:53 |
| #20 ... other than Rots and those equally horrible large Mastiffs .... Had a few Rotties including a couple of allegedly problem dogs from a rescue. Great companions every one. The rescues took a little work but nothing unusual, just socialization and being trained that they're not the alpha. Handling & training Rotties, Pit Bulls, Mastiffs or other large dogs is no different than training Jack Russells, Chihuahuas, Dachshunds or the like. Given the same traning (dog & owner) the former group are usually less likely to bite than the latter. But as per usual a few bad owners ruin it for the rest of us who are responsible. |
| Posted by: Rupert Bonaparte6610 2017-05-03 15:58 |
| #19 Yeah, and if everybody had a liberal they would be banned too! |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2017-05-03 15:43 |
| #18 If there were as many Siberian Huskies as there are Pit Bulls the Huskies would be the ones on the chopping block. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2017-05-03 14:51 |
| #17 Good information. And I am safe since I don't have a Ford pickup. |
| Posted by: USN, Ret. 2017-05-03 14:40 |
| #16 Horrible breed owned (largely) by horrible people. If you own one of these bullshit animals and claim its lovey-dovey all of the time, you only have to be wrong ONCE before somebody gets horribly maimed or killed. That's not so with virtually any other breed (other than Rots and those equally horrible large Mastiffs). I don't care to split hairs as to whether its the owner or its the dog--its the dog we're discussing in this thread. |
| Posted by: Crusader 2017-05-03 14:19 |
| #15 Good fences make good neighbors. Bad fences make dead dogs. |
| Posted by: Abu Uluque 2017-05-03 12:58 |
| #14 Besoeker, thank you from south Tucson. Your article is flawless. Except owners MEBBE having homeowners insurance - a big BWAHAHA to that. |
| Posted by: borgboy 2017-05-03 12:06 |
| #13 No Second Amendment for pit bulls. And the blood line will never end -- virtually every animal shelter mutt is part pit. |
| Posted by: regular joe 2017-05-03 12:04 |
| #12 Harcourt Angoluting9366, he's that way with everybody. He will try to get in the lap of a total stranger. He doesn't have a mean bone in his body. He likes everybody he meets. We go to dog parades and to parks. He's great and yes, he is big at 110 pounds but he won't bite you. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2017-05-03 11:33 |
| #11 After living in the south for many years, I am not at all certain that 'bred for fighting' is strictly limited to canines. |
| Posted by: Solomon Unusomble5455 2017-05-03 11:16 |
| #10 And owners I did not mean all owners. But all it takes is 5-10% |
| Posted by: Cheaderhead 2017-05-03 11:11 |
| #9 In brief association, I have experienced both extreme loyalty and the 'kill switch', in the same dog. |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2017-05-03 10:57 |
| #8 Oh Jesus Christ. The vicious dog doesn't bite you because it knows you! For fucks sake! It's these other people it doesn't know, those are the ones it's going to bite! Of course he's the most gentle dog because you are the people he knows. The rest of us aren't safe. Pit bulls are dogs specifically bred for fighting. Now that we don't have dog fighting any more outside of Mexico, pit bulls can be safely retired as a distinct breed. |
| Posted by: Harcourt Angoluting9366 2017-05-03 10:51 |
| #7 #3 The big problem is of course is the owners. I've met some pit bulls that are sweethearts. If they are used to guard crack or dope houses, usually the pit bulls are not too friendly; the owners are not either. There was a vid on Rantburg a few years ago back where a couple of pit bulls destroyed the front end of a Ford--chewed it off. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2017-05-03 10:41 |
| #6 Pit bulls the refugees? |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2017-05-03 09:48 |
| #5 I have one. He is the most gentle, affectionate dog I've ever had. The cats like him and waller all over him. He likes it. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2017-05-03 09:35 |
| #4 I suspect that the dog needed to be "rescued" because it had previously attacked people and so was in danger of being put down, but I don't know that. Regardless, this couple seemed not to have even inquired... I call that "culpable ignorance". Some dog lovers set up these situations by their stupidity & then act oh so innocent after the disaster that anyone with common sense could have foreseen. I have cared for many dog bite victims in the ER, none from pit bull attacks. The last words the victims usually heard before the teeth set in were most often "s/he won't bite". Then s/he DID bite. |
| Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 2017-05-03 09:22 |
| #3 The big problem is of course is the owners. Pit Bulls along with certain other breeds seem to attract a certain type of owner. You know the type. The guy who wants the meanest nastiest dog he can get and trains the dog to be that. That said the Pit has a structual problem in its jaws from what I understand that do not allow it to open its jaws once it starts the bite. It must close them to open them. To the best of my knowledge own one and your home owners insurance takes a big hit |
| Posted by: Cheaderhead 2017-05-03 09:18 |
| #2 Not liking pit bulls is racist because black people like them. |
| Posted by: Harcourt Angoluting9366 2017-05-03 08:55 |
| #1 Pit bulls are a menace, I have had put down a couple of them for killing cattle, had 3 170 lbs calves killed in one night alone, owners refused to take responsibility for their animals. |
| Posted by: Tarzan Chigum5540 2017-05-03 08:30 |