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| Pope: Islam needs "bridges not walls" - as he looks on the Leonine walls without which he wouldn't exist |
| 2017-02-28 |
| Edited for brevity, more at the source Pope Francis Tears at History's Walls against Islam BY RAYMOND IBRAHIM [JihadWatch] Pope Francis continues to argue for two interrelated points that, while seemingly humane, compromise Western nations and expose their citizens to danger. He reiterated his first point earlier this month when he said, "I appeal not to create walls but to build bridges." Francis reiterated his second point a few days ago when he said, "Muslim terrorism does not exist." His logic is that, because there are Christians who engage in criminal and violent activities--and yet no one blames Christianity for their behavior -- so too should Islam not be blamed when Muslims engage in criminal and violent activities. In this, the Catholic pope appears unable or unwilling to make the pivotal distinction between violence committed in accordance with Islamic teachings, and violence committed in contradiction of Christian teachings. But there's another relevant and often overlooked irony: every morning Francis wakes up in the Vatican and looks out his window, he sees a very large and concrete reminder that gives the lie to both his argument against walls and his argument in defense of Islam. I speak of the great walls surrounding Vatican City, more specifically the Leonine Walls. Context: A couple of years after Islamic prophet Muhammad died in 632, his followers erupted out of Arabia and conquered surrounding non-Muslim lands in the name of Islam. In a few decades, they had annexed two-thirds of what was in the 7th century Christendom. They took all of the Middle East, North Africa, and Spain, until they were finally stopped at Tours in central France (732). By the late 9thcentury, jihadi incursions had transformed the Mediterranean Sea into a Muslim lake; the major islands -- Sicily, Crete, Rhodes, Malta, Cyprus -- were conquered, and the European coast was habitually raided for booty and slaves. According to the most authoritative and contemporary Muslim chroniclers -- al-Waqidi, al-Baladhuri, al-Tabari, al-Maqrizi, etc. -- all this was done because Islam commands Muslims to subjugate and humiliate non-Muslims. It was in this context that, in 846, Muslim fleets from North Africa landed near Rome. Unable to breach the walls of the Eternal City, they sacked and despoiled the surrounding countryside, including -- to the consternation of Christendom -- the venerated and centuries-old basilicas of St Peter and St Paul. The Muslim invaders desecrated the tombs of the revered apostles and stripped them of all their treasures. Pope Leo IV (847-855) responded by building large walls and fortifications along the right bank of the Tiber to protect the sacred sites from further Muslim raids. Completed by 852, the walls were in places 40 feet high and 12 feet thick. Today, many Muslims, not just of the ISIS variety, continue to boast that Islam will conquer Rome, the only of five apostolic sees -- the other four being Antioch, Alexandria, Jerusalem, and Constantinople -- never to have been subjugated by jihad. Similarly, Muslims all throughout Europe continue exhibiting the same hostility and contempt for all things and persons non-Islamic, whether by going on church vandalizing sprees and breaking crosses, or by raping "infidel" women as theirs by right. In short, Pope Leo's walls prove Pope Francis wrong on both counts: yes, walls are sometimes necessary to preserve civilization; and yes, Islam does promote violence and intolerance for the other -- far more than any other religion. This fact is easily discerned by examining the past and present words and deeds of Muslims, all of which evince a remarkable and unwavering continuity of hostility against "infidels." Perhaps most ironic of all, had it not been for Pope Leo's walls -- and so many other Christian walls, such as Constantinople's, which kept Islam out of Europe for centuries, and Vienna's, which stopped a full-blown jihad as recent as 1683 -- there might not be a pope today to pontificate about how terrible walls are and how misunderstood Islam is. And when Francis accuses those who build walls of not being Christian, as he did of Trump, he essentially accuses men like Pope Leo IV -- who did so much to protect and preserve Christendom at a time when Islam was swallowing up the world -- of being no Christians at all. |
| Posted by:anon1 |
| #11 I think it's time the Pope builds some bridges and goes out to meet as many Imams as he can on their home turf. Maybe Saudi Arabia will let him in. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2017-02-28 14:19 |
| #10 Islam needs bridges, not walls because walls will just slow down the conquest of Europe. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2017-02-28 14:18 |
| #9 I look forward to the day when a new Pope is selected. |
| Posted by: Crusader 2017-02-28 13:24 |
| #8 It's been said that the church survives despite the best efforts of her leaders. The cardinals wanted someone less rigourous than the last guy they gave the hat to, and now they'll have less rigour until they're sick to their back teeth of it. The next election will benefit from more African cardinals among the voters, I suspect, with their personal knowledge of Muslims in the non-abstract. |
| Posted by: trailing wife 2017-02-28 11:26 |
| #7 It's been said that the church survives despite the best efforts of her leaders. |
| Posted by: James 2017-02-28 11:01 |
| #6 Kind of sad to see the oldest organization in the world going down the tubes Organizations are just groups of people, only mortal on a somewhat longer timeline. The Vatican needs a dirt nap along with a bunch of "foundations" that have ossified into hard left mummies at this point. Many of them do not even need to be replaced... |
| Posted by: M. Murcek 2017-02-28 08:43 |
| #5 crazyfool: yes 100% correct. Newc: agreed. This is why we need Flynn back and "nothing to do with islam" McMasters out |
| Posted by: anon1 2017-02-28 07:29 |
| #4 We need containment. |
| Posted by: newc 2017-02-28 02:19 |
| #3 Kind of sad to see the oldest organization in the world going down the tubes. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2017-02-28 02:08 |
| #2 Build a bridge - like the one that surrounds the Vatican! |
| Posted by: Raj 2017-02-28 02:08 |
| #1 he doesn't know much about Islam then. Islam was spread by the sword. he would be given three choices: Convert to Islam. Pay a special tax in humiliation. That includes bowing and groveling before your Islamic Masters. You are not allowed to publicly display your religion or practice it - (Allah is pathetic little god who cannot stand up to competition or criticism after all). You can be killed out-of-hand and you have no legal rights. Be killed. Perhaps the good Pope should deliver his message in Mecca... |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2017-02-28 00:57 |