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Caribbean-Latin America
Mexico real, real unhappy at Trump deportation rules
2017-02-23
Mexico clenched its tiny fists reacted with anger on Wednesday to what one official called "hostile" new U.S. immigration guidelines hours before senior Trump administration envoys began arriving in Mexico City for talks on the volatile issue.
Their 'unhappiness' clearly indicates the plan is working.
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security unveiled plans on Tuesday to consider almost all illegal immigrants subject to deportation, and will seek to send many of them to Mexico if they entered the United States from there, regardless of nationality. The tension over the timing of the rules mirrors an outcry when President Donald Trump tweeted that Mexico should pay for his planned border wall shortly before Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto was due at a Washington summit in January.
One way or the other Mexico is going to be on the hook...
Trump, who took office last month, campaigned on a pledge to get tougher on the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the United States, playing on fears of violent crime while promising to build the wall and stop potential terrorists from entering the country.

U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson landed in Mexico City on Wednesday afternoon. He was due to be joined by Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly later for talks the White House said would "walk through" the implementation of Trump's immigration orders. Kelly signed the guidelines issued by his department on Monday.

Mexico's lead negotiator with the Trump administration, Foreign Minister Luis Videgaray, said there was no way Mexico would accept the new rules, which among other things seek to deport non-Mexicans to Mexico.

"I want to say clearly and emphatically that the government of Mexico and the Mexican people do not have to accept provisions that one government unilaterally wants to impose on the other," he told reporters at the Foreign Ministry.
I don't recall that you have much choice. This is an internal matter for us. We'll park the people on your side of the bridge there in Brownsville. The rest is up to you.
He said the issue would dominate the talks, taking place on Wednesday and Thursday. Mexico will insist that the United States proves the nationality of any person it wants to deport to Mexico, he said.

"We also have control of our borders and we will exercise it fully," he said, adding that Mexico was prepared to go the United Nations to defend the freedoms and rights of Mexicans under international law.
I don't recall international law giving Mexicans the right to immigrate illegally into the U.S., but perhaps I'm missing some codicil or something...
Roberto Campa, who heads the human rights department of the Interior Ministry, said the plan to deport non-Mexicans to Mexico was "hostile" and "unacceptable."

Senators for the leading leftist opposition party, the Party of the Democratic Revolution, said Tillerson and Kelly were not welcome in the country and they urged Pena Nieto not to meet with them.
Ok. We'll fly our people home. Deportations begin Monday...
In Washington, White House spokesman Sean Spicer described U.S.-Mexico ties as healthy and robust and said he expected a "great discussion."

"I think the relationship with Mexico is phenomenal right now," Spicer told reporters.
That's called burying the shiv...
Homeland Security's guidance to immigration agents is part of a broader border security and immigration enforcement plan in executive orders that the Republican president signed on Jan. 25.

In Guatemala on Wednesday, Kelly told Guatemalans the immigration crackdown ordered by Trump meant undocumented immigrants would be caught and sent back quickly, advising them to stay at home. He denied the administration was embarking on mass deportations.

Mexico's agenda at the talks on Thursday includes border infrastructure, deportation strategies, Central American migration, narcotics, arms trafficking and terrorism, and the North American Free Trade Agreement, a senior official with direct knowledge of the matter told Reuters.
Posted by:Steve White

#16  If you ever want to see Mexican respect for the US on display at the border, go to San Diego and walk along the fence line and see the tens of thousands of bags of garbage that they throw across the border into the US.

http://www.10news.com/news/tijuana-resident-explains-trash-dumping-in-u-s-
Posted by: NoMoreBS   2017-02-23 16:38  

#15  I'm sure this is all for the Mexican people's consumption, but if they don't tone it down they will find Americans refusing to buy Mexican products, or products manufactured in Mexico and they'll be in real trouble.

Time for Mexico to change a few laws and allow foreign investment without all requirements that someone connected has to be involved. Watch investment flow in.

Time for Mexico to create a CCC type plan and employ their people to pave a superhighway system and fix up the regional highways.

Time for Mexico to start pushing their people to get educated.

Mexico can be first world. They just need to act, even if it might be a rocky road ahead.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2017-02-23 14:14  

#14  And not the Border Patrol; I'm thinking armored cav.

Seems like a great environment for testing and deploying autonomous killpatrol-bots. This could be the next DARPA Challenge.
Posted by: SteveS   2017-02-23 12:03  

#13  Mexican taxpayers have taken a hit with empty prisons. They should consider deportations a job stimulus.
Posted by: Whavish Thusoling5684   2017-02-23 11:59  

#12  Hmmm....it appears 3-6th Cav is at Fort Bliss along with 1AD. It's a start. 1Cav is not too far up at Fort Hood.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2017-02-23 10:38  

#11  I do not recall any time in my life when Mexico was anything other than a hostile nation on our border. They seek to benefit themselves at our expense. I am at the point where I think an patrolled border with Mexico is needed. And not the Border Patrol; I'm thinking armored cav.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike   2017-02-23 09:56  

#10  Mexico reacted with anger on Wednesday to what one official called "hostile" new U.S. immigration guidelines

IOW they get back all their good, law-abiding citizens educated and cared for at the expense of the American taxpayer. If they're a boon the the economy here that ought to go double for what they could do for the Mexican economy when they get back. What's not to like if you're in charge of Mexico?
Posted by: gorb   2017-02-23 09:49  

#9  I don't know Cure#5, they let in the Mormons.
Posted by: Skidmark   2017-02-23 09:39  

#8  Follow the money.
Posted by: Pappy   2017-02-23 08:34  

#7  It's not about all the people that will be sent home, it's about all the money they will no longer be able to send to Mexico.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2017-02-23 08:14  

#6  Article 33 of the Mexican Constitution reads -

"The Federal Executive shall have the exclusive power to compel any foreigner whose remaining he may deem inexpedient to abandon the national territory immediately and without the necessity of previous legal action."

It also states: "Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country."
Posted by: Procopius2k   2017-02-23 07:11  

#5  Why are they so angry? Mexico immigrant polities is far more restrictive and stricter than USA immigrant polities!
Posted by: Seeking cure for ignorance   2017-02-23 05:23  

#4  I'm waiting for them to export cannabis Corona and Cuervo. Growing my own avocados for dip.
Posted by: Skidmark   2017-02-23 02:56  

#3  This is what Sec State Rex Tillerson, being a business man, will put on the table after explaining the new rules:
Statistics (Wikipedia.org)

Exports $359.3 billion (2016 est.)
Export goods automobiles, electronics, televisions, computers, mobile phones, LCDs, oil and oil products, silver, fruits, vegetables, coffee, cotton.
Main export partners United States 80.3% Canada 2.7% China 1.5% Spain 1.5% Brazil 1.2% (2014 est.)...

I suggest they don't rock the boat on our importing 80.3% of Mexican exports. We can always encourage Argentina or Brazil to chip away at that number.
Posted by: Ulaiting Johnson2292   2017-02-23 01:42  

#2  The phrase 'NAFTA Tariffs' should get the Mexicans to change their tune.
Posted by: phil_b   2017-02-23 01:01  

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Posted by: DarthVader   2017-02-23 00:08  

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