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| Yikes! Voter ID: Why the left fears POTUS new illegal voter investigation |
| 2017-01-27 |
| [Front Page] Let's be honest. The Democrats have been running on voter fraud for most of their history. The only reason that they have been fighting Voter ID tooth and nail is because they are protecting their voter fraud lifeline. And everyone knows it. Majorities of both parties support Voter ID. The Democrats protest that Voter ID is a plot to disenfranchise minority voters. But minority voters also support Voter ID. If the issue were the supposed difficulty of getting an ID, they could formulate a plan that would allow all their voters to get cards without too much trouble. We have ID requirements for getting into bars, driving a car and buying cold medication. If you have to show ID while buying Sudafed, there's no logical argument against having to show an ID to vote. Not one. The only argument against Voter ID is voter fraud. The left is vocally arguing there were no illegal voters... and that Voter ID isn't needed. But if there are no illegal voters, why not have Voter ID? The question answers itself. President Trump should champion an investigation. And the outcome should be a national system of Voter ID in national elections. This is what the left is terrified of. Why the left specifically? Because the left operates strongest in enclaves where voter fraud is prevalent. Aside from some lefty towns and suburbs, they depend heavily on highly dubious vote counts in urban areas. It's time to end the debate, launch the investigation and usher in an age of legitimate voting. |
| Posted by:Besoeker |
| #26 Agree. It's sad how little so many people care. Maybe if Trump can make things happen, more will be interested. If the media is still around to allow it. |
| Posted by: Bobby 2017-01-27 18:41 |
| #25 Bobby - "Which would be sad. But accurate." It's only sad if you assume that having more votes in and of itself yields a better result. Personally, if they can't be bothered to register once every 4 years, I'm not sure I'm interested in their participation at the ballot. |
| Posted by: Iblis 2017-01-27 15:38 |
| #24 re#7: probably because most folks here have a similar view of reality - not likely to parade around with P*Yhats |
| Posted by: Betty Henbane3370 2017-01-27 13:25 |
| #23 The left is vocally arguing there were no illegal voters Then the left should welcome the idea that they might actually be proven right once. AFAIAC, we have a chance to secure both the borders and the elections this cycle. Both are about equally important. |
| Posted by: gorb 2017-01-27 13:08 |
| #22 Per that 'Trump Argument Bolstered' story... Based on national polling by a consortium of universities, a report by Mr. Richman said 6.4 percent of the estimated 20 million adult noncitizens in the U.S. voted in November. He extrapolated that that percentage would have added 834,381 net votes for Mrs. Clinton, who received about 2.8 million more votes than Mr. Trump. Its based on polling. I wonder if the question was something like this: "Will you admit to comitting Voter Fraud, which is a felony by the way, by voting when you are a non-citizen?" And 800K of 2.8M is about 28% - nothing to laugh at. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2017-01-27 12:04 |
| #21 As a Judge of Elections since Clinton II, I have found that 80% of voters first show me their Drivers License. Most are incensed when I tell them we cannot look at them, only take their word for who they are. Oh, there are 175 "voters" out of 450 in my precinct that no one has ever seen since they "vote early". |
| Posted by: Jumbo Elmilet3928 2017-01-27 11:55 |
| #20 Like this: Trump argument bolstered: Clinton received 800,000 votes from noncitizens, study finds |
| Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspiracy 2017-01-27 11:20 |
| #19 Non-citizen voting is a problem. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2017-01-27 10:53 |
| #18 Iblis - I fear the number of registered voters would plummet. Which would be sad. But accurate. |
| Posted by: Bobby 2017-01-27 10:43 |
| #17 a major problem is that in a number of states, election day registration is allowed and then the person registered may vote at once there is no way to check information in time and in most states the 'same day registered' votes are not provisional so you can't check after the election either |
| Posted by: lord garth 2017-01-27 10:41 |
| #16 Since we are talking about actual change, and not just political band aids, how about dumping the registrations every 4 years after the presidential election. If you want to vote, then you have to re-register every 4 years. |
| Posted by: Iblis 2017-01-27 10:37 |
| #15 Procopius2k, what is so hard about the folks without ID going home and getting it? I would support giving them an additional hour beyond when the polls close to do so for those that show up late. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2017-01-27 10:02 |
| #14 I've often wondered P2k, if contributors here on the Burg can arrive at workable, common sense solutions, why can't they be found in Washington ? My guess would be voter fraud. |
| Posted by: Abu Uluque 2017-01-27 09:47 |
| #13 I wonder how many outstanding warrants will be resolved at registration. Be a good two factor authentication token if credit cards didn't work without an accompanying 'I voted' sticker. |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2017-01-27 09:47 |
| #12 If the left can't cheat ENOUGH, they can't win. They didn't cheat enough at Brexit and Trump Election. |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2017-01-27 09:33 |
| #11 mmm great bio news besoeker, me likey |
| Posted by: anon1 2017-01-27 09:32 |
| #10 If the left can't cheat, they can't win. Maybe some semi-permanent blue cities can finally break free. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2017-01-27 09:11 |
| #9 Because they do not want it solved. The GOPe are basically cowards. When the Dems and the Media (redundant) start calling them racist or other names, they curl up and suck their thumbs. Trump and his appointees are not cowards. I think the Tea Partiers have a lot more work to do, they need to work on purging the old guard from all the districts. Full turnover. |
| Posted by: Spinesing Gray3122 2017-01-27 08:25 |
| #8 The 'escape clause' (#5) in Texas is called the Provisional Ballot. When I came back to Texas and did not register soon enough, Mrs. Bobby walked in for some local election and the nice ladies practically insisted I vote provisionally. They explained the vote would be held until my registration was confirmed. That was four years ago. Probably too icky for California, coming from Texas, and all that. |
| Posted by: Bobby 2017-01-27 07:58 |
| #7 I've often wondered P2k, if contributors here on the Burg can arrive at workable, common sense solutions, why can't they be found in Washington ? |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2017-01-27 07:36 |
| #6 I've heard this a lot lately, and while I agree with the sentiment I hope everyone realizes that there is an awful lot on his plate and going too fast can cause a tremendous crash. Once you've broken the enemy, you relentlessly pursue not allowing them a breather to relax, regroup, resist. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2017-01-27 07:34 |
| #5 Remember to include the escape clause, those failing to provide voter ID will be given a ballot to cast, but held for proper validation (after the election day if the margin of difference is greater than the number of votes awaiting validation). Thus, they are not denied the vote but are still required to authenticate. Make the judiciary happy. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2017-01-27 07:31 |
| #4 do it now President Trump while you have momentum. I've heard this a lot lately, and while I agree with the sentiment I hope everyone realizes that there is an awful lot on his plate and going too fast can cause a tremendous crash. When your running the Nurburgring you go as fast as you can on the straights but you have to slow down on the curves. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2017-01-27 07:27 |
| #3 Ditto anon1. I was heartened to learn the POTUS 'extreme vetting' of folks coming to the U.S. would include 'BIOMETRIC identification procedures.' A bit more here on the Army 'BATS and HIIDES' Biometrics Automated Toolset (BAT), Handheld Interagency Identity Detection Equipment (HIIDE) and Secure Electronic Enrollment Kit (SEEK). Any individual hajji objections to BATS and HIIDES were immediately held suspect in Afghanistan. Objections here could simply be returned to country of origin, provided they were not on some sort of international 'wanted list.' |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2017-01-27 06:55 |
| #2 do it now President Trump while you have momentum. Issue compulsory photo IDs - and you must show 100 points of ID to get one. That means a passport + a driver's license or other id. i wouldn't be averse to finger print and iris scans also! they can digitise registrations while still using paper ballots to keep the vote a matter of pen and paper. so you enter the voting booth only once you've had your ID scanned (and cross checked that you've only entered once across the country) and then you get issued your paper ballot.
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| Posted by: anon1 2017-01-27 06:41 |
| #1 The POTUS voting remedy may extend far beyond the demand for a valid ID. It may include computer assisted IRS or DMV address verification cross-reference, early voting and voting by mail (so-called absentee) limitations, Biometric ID verification, and an overhaul of military voting procedures. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2017-01-27 06:25 |