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Caribbean-Latin America |
Venezuela on the Brink |
2016-02-10 |
[NYTIMES] I dislike the New York Times, but occasionally they do run a story like this one, a preview of Bernie Sanders' America. Should be required reading, but the Bernie supporters are in the same league as the Chavistas who blame anyone but themselves and their idol. |
Posted by:Fred |
#35 Indeed; the black/white to that binary false choice, just wow. |
Posted by: swksvolFF 2016-02-10 22:23 |
#34 ZF; I bow in humility. May your gift never disappear but rather increase as time passes. (Bows, bows, bows, salutes) |
Posted by: Canuckistan sniper 2016-02-10 22:03 |
#33 His black and white outlook deceiving, Emotional Panda is grieving! His innards are heaving But all he's achieving Is reading and shitting and leaving. |
Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 2016-02-10 19:55 |
#32 Venezuela is a stellar example of that old joke, that goes like this. What happens if Communists take over the Sahara? They run out of sand. |
Posted by: European Conservative 2016-02-10 18:53 |
#31 Here's one news item about the government's shootings of one particular protester sometime in the last year and a half: |
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain 2016-02-10 17:52 |
#30 apparently the Sad Panda is ignorant or deliberately in denial of the Cuban Secret Police and their tactics the Chavista thugs adopted: Secret Police with block bosses to inform on and enforce party politics via shootings at protests, denial of food to entire communities, assassinations,imprisonment without process or trial, denial of medical care, etc. Before you get your panties in a twist, perhaps you'd like to tell us how these people would be wrong to overthrow their armed oppressors as they lose their lives doing so? I thought not. Urine-soaked straw men indeed. Projection much? Coward |
Posted by: Frank G 2016-02-10 17:08 |
#29 Also, I doubt Frank will cry very much for these deserving a$$holes when they do get strung up. Or whatever they do to them. |
Posted by: gorb 2016-02-10 16:24 |
#28 When they put the Reagan and Bush supporters to the knife, they might have a chance Panda, the problem is that they will be killed, like it or not. What's the last time you heard of a socialist regime allowing to be voted out of office and they just hand over the keys to the kingdom to the next administration? Maybe in Europe, but not in hardcore socialist states. Remember how they got there, observe how they are nationalizing everything and bleeding it dry. Frank doesn't condone it, it's just how regimes like that get taken out of power. They lose their "perks" when they are out of power, so they don't go peacefully. |
Posted by: gorb 2016-02-10 16:23 |
#27 Either calling for mass murder of people who disagree with your political opinions is bad or it's not, choose one But just mass murder of people who disagree with your political opinions is okay. Got it. |
Posted by: Pappy 2016-02-10 16:11 |
#26 Well, EU just look that this little darling of the Toronto Film festival. When you're headed for an irreconcilable civil war, both sides start to use the same language. The destruction of the bourgeoisie is not going to happen by quietly going to the guillotine. They're taking up the same language of their intended destroyers. |
Posted by: Procopius2k 2016-02-10 16:03 |
#25 ALSO, a small footnote for Mr. Panda to consider: there's already been a large-scale increase in the murder rate over the last fifteen years; it's enough to have been a pretty damn good purge in any other country. |
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain 2016-02-10 16:03 |
#24 I blame wreckers, saboteurs and kulaks. Also arithmetic. |
Posted by: SteveS 2016-02-10 16:00 |
#23 When they put the Chavista and Maduro supporters to the knife, they might have a chance Kinda hard to do that at the moment, guess which side in the possible upcoming civil war got lots of weapons on credit from Putin and Russia? |
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain 2016-02-10 15:59 |
#22 So Frank G says put them to the knife. Does anyone realize that that's crazy and genocidal? Or not? Is there any self consciousness there when people say horrid things like this? How about a lamp post? |
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 2016-02-10 15:50 |
#21 I believe the proper term for massive killings is to 'put them to the sword'. Putting them to the 'knife' implies much smaller scale - perhaps one or two - relatively small scale. |
Posted by: CrazyFool 2016-02-10 15:47 |
#20 When they put the Chavista and Maduro supporters to the knife, they might have a chance Here, let's try this with the roles reversed and see if anyone objects. When they put the Reagan and Bush supporters to the knife, they might have a chance If a leftist had said the second statement, would it be wrong? Yes or no? If yes, why exactly? And if yes, why is calling for mass murder of leftists by rightists good, and yet calling for mass murder of rightists by leftists bad? Either calling for mass murder of people who disagree with your political opinions is bad or it's not, choose one. |
Posted by: Elmavish Panda1401 2016-02-10 15:29 |
#19 There is enough wrong with selfish panda's remark to re-fill a Venezuelan grocery store. (Apologies to Tangled) I have a conscience, I have a conscience does not mean we have to let evil punch us While Maduro screams and cries The people must do or die And must do so without firearms among them I may sound all mean and scary But good people are in a place quite hairy While Obama would rather arm and train Al-Qaeda. |
Posted by: swksvolFF 2016-02-10 15:29 |
#18 Well, Commodore Frank, that's a hell of a thread you put us through.......heh. |
Posted by: Alaska Paul 2016-02-10 15:25 |
#17 *snort* |
Posted by: Frank G 2016-02-10 15:09 |
#16 Point of clarification: Frank G never said "put them to the knife" so Panda's initial point is a urine soaked straw-man. |
Posted by: Rex Mundi 2016-02-10 14:46 |
#15 One doesn't at all wonder how Mr. Panda would have behaved had he been in China during that horrid Cultural Revolution rather than today, Skidmark, given his vigourous virtue signalling when only a few dozen imaginary lives are at stake rather than the very real attempted class genocide numbering millions of bourgeoisie "intellectuals". How wonderful for the country he lives in that such behaviours are transferred from mind to mind via the medium of the written word rather than bodily in the DNA. |
Posted by: trailing wife 2016-02-10 14:26 |
#14 Something about 'simple' in collision with 'the law of unintended consequences' comes to mind, TW. Much like Mr. Panda's NOM, protected species only last as long as they have an enabling protector. |
Posted by: Skidmark 2016-02-10 14:01 |
#13 So Frank G says put them to the knife. Does anyone realize that that's crazy and genocidal? Perhaps the writer has forgotten that genocide means the killing off of an antire people, both children and adults, or a serious attempt thereof. Killing a few fascist followers of the now-dead head of the fascist ruling party of a nearly defunct smallish Hispano-American country while leaving their families untouched except for the loss of income and status is as nearly the opposite of genocide as it is possible to be... and in fact what Frank G. suggested is a much nicer version of the traditional method of changing the party in power in that part of the world. This suggests that the label of crazy might also attach better to the writer than to his or her target, though one suspects a habit of writing censorious posts before thinking is to blame. |
Posted by: trailing wife 2016-02-10 13:34 |
#12 So Frank G says put them to the knife. Does anyone realize that that's crazy and genocidal? Or not? Is there any self consciousness there when people say horrid things like this? Oh, look. It's Richard from the Internet. He's come to visit us again. |
Posted by: gorb 2016-02-10 13:17 |
#11 I am fairly certain that that is a metaphorical knife. Drax the Destroyer would be lost on RB so don't be him. Pain is the why that people learn. The only question for Venezuela is how much pain is it going to take. |
Posted by: Sven the pelter 2016-02-10 13:15 |
#10 ...well, the Lefties who talk about mankind needing a smaller population (sustainable earth) and footprint on Mother Gaia. Usually that doesn't include their rump in the calculation. |
Posted by: Procopius2k 2016-02-10 13:03 |
#9 So Frank G says put them to the knife. Does anyone realize that that's crazy and genocidal? Or not? Is there any self consciousness there when people say horrid things like this? |
Posted by: Elmavish Panda1401 2016-02-10 12:54 |
#8 I wonder whose brilliant idea it was in the DNC to put Bernie up as HRC's token opposition? |
Posted by: Sven the pelter 2016-02-10 12:09 |
#7 Does Venezuela feel "the Bern"? This is what the left, from Hillary on down want for us as has been noted before. |
Posted by: AlanC 2016-02-10 10:32 |
#6 How's the universal single payer healthcare system working out? Free stuff, free stuff, free stuff! Punish the productive, reward the non-productive always seems to come to this. |
Posted by: Procopius2k 2016-02-10 09:26 |
#5 the enduring loyalty of Mr. Chávez’s supporters. When they put the Chavista and Maduro supporters to the knife, they might have a chance |
Posted by: Frank G 2016-02-10 08:43 |
#4 Seems Venezuela's been on this particular brink for a while now... |
Posted by: ed in texas 2016-02-10 08:15 |
#3 Bernie Sanders wants to bring this show soon to a theater (of life) near you! |
Posted by: M. Murcek 2016-02-10 04:02 |
#2 Smart of the NYTimes to not include a Comment section after the article. |
Posted by: Fairbanks 2016-02-10 03:08 |
#1 Well, just bad luck. |
Posted by: KBK 2016-02-10 00:50 |