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Debka: Israel tech in the Chinese J-10 fighter jets Iran may be buying
2015-08-02
Debka, so salt to taste.
Iran is about to conclude a transaction with China for the purchase of the Chengdu J-10 multirole jet fighter, known in the West as the Vigorous Dragon, according to an exclusive report from debkafile’s military and intelligence sources. Beijing has agreed to sell Tehran 150 of these sophisticated jets.

While the Chinese J-10 is comparable to the US F-16, our sources report that it is virtually a replica of the Lavi, the super-fighter developed by Israel’s aerospace industry in the second half of the 80s. Israel sold China the technology, after Washington insisted on Its discontinuing the Lavi’s production. The US also objected to the sale of the Lavi’s avionics, claiming that it contained some American components.

The Chinese plane comes in two versions – the multirole single-seat J-10A and the two-seat J-10B, which serves for training, ground assaults and electronic warfare.

Iran has additionally weighing the purchase in Moscow of 250 highly-advanced Sukhoi-Su-30MK1 twinjet multirole air superiority fighters, known in the West as Flanker-H.

On Wednesday, July 29, an Indian Air Force Su-30MK1 took part for the first time in a British air maneuver, Rainbow, where it dueled with the European Typhoon fighter.

The sophisticated Flanker has been found to have a major shortcoming. To carry eight tons of ordnance, it must use both of its AL-31FP engines, and the transition from one to two – and the reverse - often causes engine failure. The Indian Air Force has reported three such malfunctions in a month, as well another shortcoming: The time needed for making the aircraft serviceable is too long. As a result, only half of the Indian fleet can be airborne at one time.
So you buy twice as many planes...
In a confrontation, the Iranian Air Force may find that, because of these drawbacks, the Chinese Su-30MK1 is outmatched by its American and European counterparts in the service of the Israeli, Saudi and UAE air forces.

On July 22, debkafile revealed that Moscow and Tehran had concluded a giant transaction for the acquisition of a fleet of 100 IL78 MK1 (Midas) in-flight refueling planes for extending the range of its warplanes up to 7,300 km and able to refuel 6-8 planes at once.
Tehran is also reportedly weighing purchasing 250 Sukhoi-Su-30 "Flanker H" fighters from Moscow. Guess they need something else for the IL78s to refuel.
debkafile: The scale of Iran’s multibillion acquisitions from China and Russia – 550 warplanes in all so far - indicates that Tehran’s top spending priority upon receipt of the funds released by the removal of sanctions, is to be a spanking new air force.
Posted by:Pappy

#12  Now, now, to be fair the Indian Air Farce uses the terms "crashed" andor "crashing" when referring its new Russian aircraft, thus proving the clear-n-present danger or threat of Russian air - NOT - to US F-16's + F15's, + USN F-18's.

THE ABOVE BEING SAID + SELF-OBVIOUS ON THE MSM-NET, IT REMAINS IN US INTERESTS TO HELP INDIA + RUSSIA STAVE OFF THE HARD BOY THREAT, ESPEC TO THEIR NUKE ARSENALS.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2015-08-02 22:50  

#11  Air Forces are your leading cause of coupe de grasse, keep the happy and keep the smart booms out of your bedroom
Posted by: Shipman   2015-08-02 13:49  

#10  This seems to be a very word-salady-way of saying that two engine airplanes suck.

More like the Su-30 design is somewhat lacking.
Posted by: Pappy   2015-08-02 12:58  

#9  If it's Chinese software, the pilot has to hack the plane to fly it...
Posted by: M. Murcek   2015-08-02 12:21  

#8  Original software?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2015-08-02 12:09  

#7  About the quality of those Chinese parts....
Posted by: Procopius2k   2015-08-02 11:13  

#6  The sophisticated Flanker has been found to have a major shortcoming. To carry eight tons of ordnance, it must use both of its AL-31FP engines, and the transition from one to two – and the reverse - often causes engine failure. The Indian Air Force has reported three such malfunctions in a month, as well another shortcoming: The time needed for making the aircraft serviceable is too long. As a result, only half of the Indian fleet can be airborne at one time.

This seems to be a very word-salady-way of saying that two engine airplanes suck.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2015-08-02 10:40  

#5  And Russian pilots fought in both the Korean and Vietnam Wars.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2015-08-02 10:04  

#4  Do the aircraft come with maintenance crews and pilots?

Likely the former.

..and organizational Class IX inventories?

Possibly. The Russians and Chinese (and eventually the Euros) will sell them whatever they want.
Posted by: Pappy   2015-08-02 09:40  

#3  ..and organizational Class IX inventories?
Posted by: Procopius2k   2015-08-02 09:20  

#2  Do the aircraft come with maintenance crews and pilots?
Posted by: Glenmore   2015-08-02 07:33  

#1  The scale of Iran’s multibillion acquisitions from China and Russia – 550 warplanes in all so far - indicates that Tehran’s top spending priority upon receipt of the funds released by the removal of sanctions, is to be a spanking new air force.

First things first!
Posted by: gorb   2015-08-02 03:54  

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