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The case for the nuke deal with Iran
2015-07-24
By John Kerry and Ernest Moniz
Posted by:ryuge

#7  3dc, what you quote is true but only up to a point.

No logical argument is any stronger than the truth of the premises on which it is based. Goedel's proof pretty much says it all about the limits of completeness and consistency in any system be it mathematical or logical.

Our problem with society is that the underlying premises have all been undermined or ignored so logic and reason can no longer build on that foundation.

And yes, it does suck.
Posted by: AlanC   2015-07-24 09:21  

#6  When was the last time you saw a limp noodle snap back into place?
Posted by: Bobby   2015-07-24 07:28  

#5  If Iran fails to meet its responsibilities, by the time the sanctions will snap back into place, if ever will at best be years and it will be too late.
Posted by: BernardZ   2015-07-24 06:17  

#4  Belmont Club on Obama supporters "Social Proof" argument for Iran deal

Social proof is susceptible to betrayal, while reasoning, because it relies on God — or mathematics and the laws of physics if you wish — never lies. Since history is pretty much a catalog of betrayal and obscurantism, it is rational to rely on reason. This conviction once lay at the heart of Western civilization and drove its progress but not any more. We’ve become superstitious savages with smartphones. We’ve forgotten why reason was adopted as the cornerstone of civilization to start with.
Posted by: 3dc   2015-07-24 02:35  

#3  Well... abject surrender is a case for the deal I guess.

Excuse me while I execute my refusal of your government.
Posted by: DarthVader   2015-07-24 01:30  

#2  Didn't know Kerry followed Rantburg.
Posted by: Skidmark   2015-07-24 01:07  

#1  What? It will scare Israel and the Saudis into attacking Iran instead of the West?
Posted by: 3dc   2015-07-24 00:36  

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