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Memphis Mayor Wants to Literally Dig Up Confederate General and Move Him
2015-06-30
[MEDIAITE] Memphis Mayor A C Wharton has called for the removal of the grave of Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest from a city park, along with an attached memorial.

"These relics, these messages of this despicable period of this great nation, it's time for those to be moved," Wharton said in a presser Thursday.

Most historians believe that Forrest was also the first Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan, although he later distanced himself from the group as they became more violent. "This is not just an ordinary monument," Wharton said. "This is a monument to a man who was the avowed founder of the organization that has as its purpose the intimidation, the oppression of black folks."

The local Sons of Confederate Veterans are opposed to the mayor's proposal, naturally. Its leader calls Forrest "very well respected, and a military leader who is still studied worldwide in military academies today."
Posted by:Fred

#19  well, that doesn't play well for the Opportunist Mayor of Memphisâ„¢
Posted by: Frank G   2015-06-30 21:39  

#18  Thanks DB.
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-06-30 19:57  

#17  link A convention and BBQ was held by the Independent Order of Pole-Bearers Association at the fairgrounds of Memphis, five miles east of the city. An invitation to speak was conveyed to General Nathan Bedford Forrest, one of the city's most prominent citizens, and one of the foremost cavalry commanders in the late War Between the States. This was the first invitation granted to a white man to speak at this gathering. The invitation's purpose, one of the leaders said, was to extend peace, joy, and union, and following a brief welcoming address a Miss Lou Lewis, daughter of an officer of the Pole-Bearers, brought forward flowers and assurances that she conveyed them as a token of good will. After Miss Lewis handed him the flowers, General Forrest responded with a short speech that, in the contemporary pages of the Memphis Appeal, evinces Forrest's racial open-mindedness that seemed to have been growing in him.

Ladies and Gentlemen I accept the flowers as a memento of reconciliation between the white and colored races of the southern states. I accept it more particularly as it comes from a colored lady, for if there is any one on God's earth who loves the ladies I believe it is myself. ( Immense applause and laughter.) I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to elevate every man to depress none. (Applause.) I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going. I have not said anything about politics today. I don't propose to say anything about politics. You have a right to elect whom you please; vote for the man you think best, and I think, when that is done, you and I are freemen. Do as you consider right and honest in electing men for office. I did not come here to make you a long speech, although invited to do so by you. I am not much of a speaker, and my business prevented me from preparing myself. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve you I will do so. We have but one flag, one country; let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. Go to work, be industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed I'll come to your relief. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this opportunity you have afforded me to be with you, and to assure you that I am with you in heart and in hand. (Prolonged applause.)

Whereupon N. B. Forrest again thanked Miss Lewis for the bouquet and then gave her a kiss on the cheek. Such a kiss was unheard of in the society of those days, in 1875, but it showed a token of respect and friendship between the general and the black community and did much to promote harmony among the citizens of Memphis.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2015-06-30 18:54  

#16  JFM, those are all true.
Posted by: Deacon Blues   2015-06-30 18:50  

#15  Revisionists, break out the Comet
And rub out your history, or bomb it!
Knock statues of debbils
All down from their jebels
(Just spare Nathan Bedford Mahomet)!
Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220   2015-06-30 17:32  

#14  The frenzy with which this wave of liberal guilt and manipulative race hustling is amazing. Literally destroy history and all traces of a past that you don't like. The rate of the entropy of the Republic continues its acceleration under Champ, and many of the things being done inside government may never be undone, moving the inevitable confrontation that seems to loom once the money stops buying votes and favors....It didn't have to be this way but it seems to be framing along demographic lines in spite of many who hate that idea....
Posted by: NoMoreBS   2015-06-30 15:33  

#13  
Posted by: gorb   2015-06-30 14:36  

#12  Groan.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2015-06-30 14:35  

#11  Late in the war while serving under General Stephen D. Lee, Forrest experienced tactical defeat at the Battle of Tupelo in 1864. Concerned about Union supply lines, Maj. Gen. William T. Sherman sent a force under the command of Maj. Gen. Andrew J. Smith to deal with Forrest. The Union forces drove the Confederates from the field and Forrest was wounded in the foot, but his forces were not wholly destroyed. The General and his troops hid in the woods and were not located by the Union forces. They couldn't see Forrest for the trees.
Posted by: BrerRabbit   2015-06-30 14:15  

#10  
Posted by: Herman Speaking for Boskone6458   2015-06-30 12:40  

#9  You talking about society that bans "Tom Sawyer"

But even to this day they borrow a page out of Tom Sawyer and try to whitewash Forrest away.

He was what he was. Leave him there. Let people remember and learn.
Posted by: gorb   2015-06-30 10:56  

#8  He was a liar, a slaver, and a war criminal, whatever his other military virtues.
Posted by Mitch H
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Seems a good Democrat can never catch a break, even in the hereafter.
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-06-30 10:03  

#7  Klan propaganda horseshit, JFM. Typical self-serving paternalistic bilgewater at three removes. Forrest was responsible for the Fort Pillow massacre of USCT artillerymen, and bragged about the slaughter afterwards. He was a liar, a slaver, and a war criminal, whatever his other military virtues.
Posted by: Mitch H.   2015-06-30 09:48  

#6  You talking about society that bans "Tom Sawyer", JFM.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2015-06-30 09:05  

#5  http://www.examiner.com/article/in-defense-of-nathan-bedford-forrest
Posted by: JFM   2015-06-30 08:24  

#4  According to pro-FBedord-orrest web site:

-Bedford-Forest tradaded slaves but made of point of not selling them to people who teated thelm badly. True(?)

-Had Black body-guards during the war. True?

-Creted the KKK as an anti-carpetbagger movement. In fact according to that site his first his first action was against a Black man who beat his wife. Truee?

-Made a speech in front of a Black assembly telling "he had never been an ennemy of the Negro race" (at that time neither Balaks or Whites consdered this term as insulting). This should be verifiable. If that speech really took place then the simple fact he was invited to speak at a Black assembly is significant.

-Like Beauregard, he spent his last years helping Blacks. True?

-Was mourned by many Blaks when he died. That should be easily verifiable. just read the press relases about his death.

The foling is a pro Bedford-Forrest article about most of the pints I talked about.

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Posted by: JFM   2015-06-30 07:58  

#3  Behavior that is rewarded is reinforced. Joseph.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2015-06-30 05:03  

#2  Methinks the Libs + aligned have gone too far wid this Confederate flag removal.

As predicted, FERGUSON + OTHER "POLICE ABUSE" INCIDENTS have utterly failed to start a "race war" in the US, but pushing this Confederate flag removal thingy could end up actually putting America = Amerika on the path to a de facto SECOND CIVIL WAR.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2015-06-30 03:21  

#1  
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