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Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Jihadists in Syria: A last spasm of imperialism?
2015-06-07
[ARA] A part of culture arises as a reflection of post-imperialistic culture, according to Edward Said. In other words, culture can be a reaction by people for being supressed by an alien force using its (superior) culture as justification. This of course already implies a difference in culture, so suppression magnifies these differences and creates fertile ground for cultures of extremism.

A majority of members of the most holy warrior Islamic groups, Daesh (Islamic State
...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allah around with every other sentence, but to hear the pols talk they're not really Moslems....
) and Nusra (Syrian al-Qaeda), come from abroad, especially from caucasian countries and so-called Western countries. The thoughts of these groups seem to be slowly spreading among the Syrian people initially very weary of these groups.

So how can we understand the cultural extremism from these foreign "fighters" (in my opinion they are not just fighting), especially from western countries, from a cultural point as Said would call it?

It is not very different from the argument made by Said, namely a reflection of current Western culture. These "fighters" have been confronted with Western culture, which appearantly has not changed a lot since the end of colonialism. Western culture and politics still contain the thought of superiority towards other cultures. The idea that Western culture can bring human rights
When they're defined by the state or an NGO they don't mean much...
and democracy to the others is still widespread. Also the thought that this is a good thing, almost a gift, is still prevalent. That culture can be seen in the so-called aid organizations and politics and finds support in art.

These foreign "fighters" are in essence a reflection of the most extreme form of this post-imperialistic culture. They can be seen, to use a medical analogy, as an unwanted side-effect caused partly by the medication, partly by themselves and partly by their personal environment.

TWIST

The soul can be seen as an irrational part of our being. In any event what they, both "cultures" in extreme form, have in common is negligence for our souls. These cultures provide a foundation for superiority above "any other". By doing so they refute the soul which, according to me, has insecurities and doubt. Rationality, or the pretence of it, can exclude doubt and insecurity about ourselves, our existence, our purpose and the position of the other. Doubt is a necessity for peace.

Dictators can only be if they don't doubt their position and decisions. Hate is unaware of doubt. If a gun would doubt itself no bullet would hit the target.

DOUBT

At the moment doubt seems to be decreasing in Syria and among the parties involved. Doubt means weakening oneself, because it implies that one might be wrong, at least partly. So the lack of doubt strengthens, doubt diminishes untill it is just a shimmer on the horizon or a negotiator from the UN.

So, from my point of view, the only way out of the war is to let doubt re-enter the parties involved. Doubt can only re-enter if the people involved are willing to doubt their side based on facts or superior thought (logic), which will lead to irrationality (emotions).

RADICALIZATION

Another interesting subject are the youngsters joining those groups. In the New York review of Books Malise Ruthven describes the case of a girl from La Belle France. She grew up as a native Frnech in a highly educated and atheist family. After her favourite aunt passed, so Malise claims, she finds comfort in religion, Islam.

Our society, in its extreme rational form, lacks attention for our souls. In this case comfort after we loose a beloved one. Religion can provide that irrational comfort. This leaves us vulnerable to outside influences that do give comfort. After receiving comfort, the girl becomes vulnerable to extreme views of that releigion, Islam. And she subsequently loses the irrational part again, she is not able to doubt the religion and it's supposed duties, and joins the war in Syria.

In the end the paradoxes are: rationality is required to allow irrationality (doubt) and the lack of irrationality attracts young people to extremism (lack of irrationality).
Posted by:Fred

#5  Article attempts to totally ignore the fact that Islam has been an imperial religion since its very beginning. It has been a a poorly performing imperialist endeavor for the last 500 years, and is trying to claw its way back to the top as other imperialist powers decline. The 'foreign fighters' just want to join a winning imperialist effort.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418    2015-06-07 12:16  

#4  This is the writing of a self-hating lefty who wants to save Arabs and Muslims from accepting responsibility for their own situation.

The truth is Islam is an exceptionally rigid and inflexible religion. This rigidity causes a violent response to change. The muslim youth in Europe are the bleeding edge of this dilemma.

Also, they were brought up to believe that they should be in charge of everything, just for being Muslim. The fact that Westerners look upon them with amusement drives them crazy.

Al
Posted by: frozen al   2015-06-07 12:02  

#3  When Western Imperialism was in place, the amount of mussie vs mussie and african vs african violence and death toll was a lot less. Not to mention side avocations like terrorism, piracy, slaving, et al.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2015-06-07 09:58  

#2  The idea that Western culture can bring human rights and democracy to the others is still widespread. Also the thought that this is a good thing, almost a gift, is still prevalent. That culture can be seen in the so-called aid organisations and politics and finds support in art.

He neglected to include 'money making'.....but I suppose that was an implied element. Human rights, democracy, and nation building as convenient covers, etc.
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-06-07 02:00  

#1  Western culture, which appearantly has not changed a lot since the end of colonialism

Dying and beginning to decompose is not change enough?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2015-06-07 01:50  

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