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Iraq
De-Islamization is the Only Way to Fight ISIS
2015-05-24
[SultanKnish] Obama can't defeat ISIS with soft power, though ISIS could beat him with soft power assuming its Caliph ever decided to agree to sit down at a table with John Kerry without beheading him. Iran has picked up billions in sanctions relief and the right to take over Yemen and raid ships in international waters in the Persian Gulf just for agreeing to listen to Kerry talk for an hour.

And that might be a fair exchange.
An hour? I'd need more then Yemen...
As bad as having your capital or ship seized by Iran is, listening to John Kerry talk is even worse.

If ISIS were to agree to a deal, it could pick up Baghdad and Damascus just in exchange for showing up. All it would have to do is find a Jihadi who hasn't chopped off any heads on camera to present as a moderate. The administration and its media operatives would accuse anyone who disagreed of aiding the ISIS hardliners at the expense of the ISIS moderates who also represent the hardliners.

If Obama did that, he would at least lose in a way that he understands; instead of in a way he doesn't.

...The Islamic State isn't unnatural. Its strength comes from being an organic part of the region, the religion and its culture. Its Arab enemies have performed so poorly fighting it because their institutions, their governments and their armies are unstable imitations of Western entities.

The United States can't make the Iraqi army work because Iraq isn't America. The assumptions about meritocracy, loyalty to comrades and initiative that make our military work are foreign in Iraq and Afghanistan where the fundamental unit is not the nation, but the tribe, clan and group.

Iraq and Syria aren't countries; they're collections of quarreling tribes that were forced into an arrangement that included the forms of Western government without any of the substance. When the Europeans left, kingdoms quickly became military juntas. Now the juntas are fighting for survival against Islamic insurgencies that are striving to return the region to what it was in the days of Mohammed.

ISIS is the ultimate decolonization effort. It's what the left claims that it wants. But real decolonization means stripping away everything the Europeans brought, including constitutions, labor unions and elections. The cities that ISIS controls have been truly decolonized. There is no music, there are no rights, slavery is back and every decision is made by a cleric with a militia or a militia leader with a cleric.

That's Mohammed. It's the Koran. It's Islam.

...We can't beat ISIS with Islam and we can't fight for freedom while endorsing constitutions that make Sharia law into the law of the land in places like Iraq and Libya.

We don't only need to defeat ISIS. We must defeat the culture that makes ISIS inevitable
Lets start by making first-cousin marriages a capital offence---not for the young people involved, but for their elders for arranging these.
Posted by:g(r)omgoru

#5  They'd rather describe the biggest problem today as "climate change." "Climate change" doesn't argue or fight back or kill (although the lefties would argue that). There's no cost to defining the enemy as climate change rather than ISIS. Washington is skilled at jousting with windmills and collecting huge amounts of taxpayers money to joust.
Posted by: JohnQC   2015-05-24 20:11  

#4  ISIS could be defeated but no one is really focused or serious about it in D.C.
Posted by: JohnQC   2015-05-24 20:07  

#3   We must defeat the culture...

In order to defeat it, you must first say its name.
Posted by: SteveS   2015-05-24 18:53  

#2  Met any representatives of Carthaginian culture lately, Anguper Hupomosing9418? How about Aztec?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2015-05-24 16:04  

#1  We must defeat the culture that makes ISIS inevitable
Lotsa luck with that.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418    2015-05-24 15:23  

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