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| 2015-04-21 | |
Law enforcement officials have been doing such outreach for years. But now that federal officials are putting their stamp on it, some Moslems and others fear it is profiling disguised as prevention and worry it could compromise civil liberties and religious freedom. The effort divides Moslem leaders who, on one side, argue that more must be done to fight extremism in their community and that this programme is a historic opportunity for input. Others fear the programme, which could be rolled out nationwide after being being tested in Los Angeles, Minneapolis and Boston, is just another veiled way for law enforcement to target their community. Sceptics remember the New York police department's surveillance of Moslems, uncovered in an investigation in 2011, and an FBI informant's description of how he was taught to ingratiate himself to a southern Caliphornia, an impregnable bastion of the Democratic Party, religious community in the mid-2000s to secretly gather contact information and record conversations. The US government announced the "countering violent extremism programme" last fall, billing it as a community-driven initiative to tackle terrorism and bully boy recruitment by preventing radicalisation from taking root. President Barack Obama I bowled a 129. It’s like — it was like Special Olympics, or something... later said Moslems needed to fight a misconception that groups like the self-styled Islamic State ...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allaharound with every other sentence, but to hear the pols talk they're not reallyMoslems.... speak for them, even as senior administration officials insisted they were not focusing exclusively on that particular threat. Some 20,000 fighters have joined the Islamic State group and other murderous Moslems in their campaigns in Iraq and Syria, including at least 3,400 from Western nations, according to US intelligence agencies. As many as 150 are estimated to be American, though they did not succeed in reaching the war zone. Officials have long eyed the threat of home-grown murderous Moslems such as Timothy McVeigh, who bombed the Oklahoma City federal building and killed 168 people 20 years ago. But the rise of the IS group has taken front and centre in the past year. The countering violent extremism programme is led by attorneys' offices, the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI, local law enforcement agencies and, critically, local faith and community groups. | |
| Posted by:trailing wife |
| #13 And Wisconsin conservatives. |
| Posted by: Bobby 2015-04-21 13:37 |
| #12 Profiling? Of course they would say this. This is what they do. I'd say we should do more of this. The last time I looked our enemy is not the little old ladies with umbrellas, Mormons, Mennonites, 7th Day Adventists, Tea Party, conservatives, Christians, etc. However, the "O" admin does seem to think the Christians and conservatives are the enemy. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2015-04-21 08:45 |
| #11 Islam is an ideology. Unlike race it is something ypou can reject so I am not going to allow yopu to profess it if it enfdnagers me or lmy beloved one. I will fight it just like I would have fought the Aztec religion, Communism or Nazism. Unhappy about thois? Reject it. |
| Posted by: Bill Javitch3680 2015-04-21 07:18 |
| #10 they analysed us and they know it's a winning strategy to appeal to the concept of "race". That's how they win, especially when they appeal to the left within our society. To counter it, be sure to always use secular Muslims as your allies which they are. Eg: Ban sharia. Islamists want sharia but secular Muslims do not. Therefore you Islamofascists are not representing all Muslims. Therefore you cannot call this position racist since it's clearly not a race and you don't even speak for all Muslims. |
| Posted by: anon1 2015-04-21 06:04 |
| #9 we SHOULD be profiling - not on race but on the politico-religious dogma of islamofascism. We should name Islamofascism as the enemy, ban sharia. Ban funding for mosques, foundations or religious schools by Saudi Arabia or anybody within Saudi Arabia. Ban religious organisations from raising money by certifying food - they want Halal Certification then they pay for it themselves. ban faith courts. Then subject all mosques and religious schools to independent auditing. Ban any imams who preach loyalty to Sharia as more important than loyalty to the secular law of the land. |
| Posted by: anon1 2015-04-21 06:01 |
| #8 Very true g (r) om |
| Posted by: chris 2015-04-21 05:21 |
| #7 In all fairness Chris, the target audience are not Americans like you, but your ruling class. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2015-04-21 02:51 |
| #6 It's really amazing how they think we should give a fuck what they think. When they start using deodorant I will begin to care. |
| Posted by: chris 2015-04-21 02:43 |
| #5 Islam is not a race. More like leprosy of the mind. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2015-04-21 02:22 |
| #4 Goes triple for Mohammedans. |
| Posted by: Remote an 2015-04-21 01:13 |
| #3 So what? If the IRA were the issue, then they damned well had better be monitoring for White Irish Catholics. Same goes for Mohammedans. |
| Posted by: OldSpook 2015-04-21 00:19 |
| #2 Islam is not a race. It is a political movement with "religious" undertones. |
| Posted by: newc 2015-04-21 00:18 |
| #1 1) Islam is not a race 2) Stop preaching it is ok to kill us 3) Fuck off and die |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2015-04-21 00:16 |