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Home Front: Politix
POLICE: Obama Bullet Ban Isn't Needed
2015-03-05
A top police representative on Tuesday said that there is no history of criminals using a round popular among AR-15 rifle shooters against officers, undermining the Obama administration's argument for banning the 5.56 M855 "lightgreen tip."

"Any ammunition is of concern to police in the wrong hands, but this specific round has historically not posed a law enforcement problem," said James Pasco, executive director of the Washington office of the Fraternal Order of Police, the world's largest organization of sworn law enforcement officers, with more than 325,000 members.

He told Secrets that the round used mostly for target practice "is not typically used against law enforcement."
Typical 'nose under the tent.' Get by with 5.56 and move on to 9mm, .45, etc.
While he said that he is "not finding fault" with the surprise move last month by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to classify the round as "armor piercing" and then ban it, Pasco added, "While this round will penetrate soft body armor, it has not historically posed a threat to law enforcement."
Posted by:Ebbomosh Hupemp2664

#10  This weapon [with or without the wrist device] is classified as a pistol. It fires the 5.56mm NATO round.
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-03-05 23:44  

#9  Almost any high velocity rifle round will defeat soft and steel body armor. You need to go to ceramic plates to have protection against rifle rounds.
Posted by: Hellfish   2015-03-05 18:37  

#8  Does anyone know of a PISTOL chambered for 5.56 rifle?

Under ATF rules, a rifle with a barrel shorter than 16 inches long without a shoulder stock is considered a pistol. So, yes, there are 5.56mm pistols out there.
Posted by: badanov   2015-03-05 14:58  

#7  "While this round will penetrate soft body armor, it has not historically posed a threat to law enforcement."

A while back, I spoke with a Tactical response commander for the local PD about their newly acquired and very expensive body armor. He said the first thing he stresses to his unit is the soft gear is not "armor" – it’s made with layers of material similar to Kevlar. His primary concern is that he doesn’t want the crew not geared with plates to have a perception of invincibility. More directly; Soft gear garments are bullet resistant – not bullet proof. He said even the latest technology soft armor doesn’t guarantee protection from one the most likely firearms they may confront - a 12 gauge shotgun firing a slug at semi-close range. Interestingly, his greatest anxiety didn’t come from a gun at all. He said with a chuckle, a vest may increase your odds of surviving a firefight but it’s absolutely worthless against a crack head with an icepick.
One wonders if BATF will move to outlaw icepicks?
Posted by: DepotGuy   2015-03-05 13:21  

#6  Backdoor approach of radical left-wing zealots to further their agenda for gun control. The ill-fated Fast and Furious was another such back-door approach to gin up a fervor for gun control by this government. We know how well that worked. It resulted in the deaths of many in Mexico and BP Brian Terry in the U.S. What we need is radical left-wing zealot control because as it stands now, they are out of control.
Posted by: JohnQC   2015-03-05 11:04  

#5  This ban is just a trial balloon for the rest of the ammo bans that will come if this works.
Posted by: DarthVader   2015-03-05 10:34  

#4  But we've all already been told that Obama knows more about every job than the people who actually do it, so shut up.
Posted by: ed in texas   2015-03-05 07:50  

#3  Nothing this man attempts to do is 'needed.'
Posted by: Besoeker   2015-03-05 03:33  

#2  There are pistols based in AR designs and shoot 5.56N. They weigh 6 lbs and are over 2 feet long, so it's not like someone is going to be itching to try and conceal that.
Posted by: Silentbrick   2015-03-05 00:37  

#1  I also read where the ban justification said that when used in PISTOLS the round could pierce body armor.

Does anyone know of a PISTOL chambered for 5.56 rifle?
Posted by: Mystic   2015-03-05 00:13  

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