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This Week In Guns, February 21st, 2015
2015-02-21


By Chris Covert
Ranturg.com

The big news this week in the government's drive to turn us all into serfs is the news that M855 and SS109 5.56x45mm rounds have been banned because they are considered armor piercing. We must, so the logic goes, stop any threat to the body armor of cops and soldiers. Someone remarked that not a lot of hue and cry went up when the Russian 5.45x45 7N6 round was banned as armor piercing so, confident, the ATF banned a commonly used round. It is looking a lot like at least one effect may have been a jump in prices in many classes of ammunition, even pistol rounds. Maybe prices were poised to jump anyway, dunno.

One of the possible problems is that the ATF violated the law when the ban was imposed by failing to follow procedures laid out in the 1946 Administrative Procedures Act, especially in the area of proper notification.

And in the comedy category, an anti gun rights lawyer was busted for attempting to carry a gun on board an aircraft at Cleveland Hopkins Airport. My best guess is that David Malik will be prosecuted under the David Gregory protocol. That means not at all.

Dunno which is worse. Violating the law and skipping punishment, or being busted in Cleveland.

Remarks Michael Bloomberg made on using racial profiling as a criteria of banning guns will not be made available. According to the press, "representatives of Michael Bloomberg" stopped release of the remarks. "Representatives" prolly having the face of Benjamin Franklin, in unmarked bills.

Loads.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Ammunition prices in some classes have jumped, and prices for all classes of rifles have jumped quite a bit week over week. It will be interesting to see by the end of this quarter where prices will be, compared to the previous quarter.

You can see how used gun prices have behaved by looking at the main heading and seeing the average price (how many weeks ago that average was reached) and then prices from the previous week. The report for Q4, 2014 will be out on April 4th.

Prices for rifle ammunition and pistol ammunition were mixed. It should be noted that prices for some classes of pistol ammunition have suddenly shifted upward, some by as much as 25 percent. This after being steady since as far back as Q3, 2014.

Prices for used rifles were higher across the board, while prices for used pistols were mixed.

Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 grain, From Last Week: +.01 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Munire USA, Tulammo, Steel cased, .28 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, steel cased, .28 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4Q, 2014))

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 grain, From Last Week: +.06 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: SOWW Armory, Summit, FMJ, reloads, .26 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: IQ Metals, HSM, reloads, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks))

9mm Parabellum, 115 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (10 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: SG Ammo, Wolf WPA, Steel Cased, FMJ, .20 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: The American Marksman, Reloads, FMJ, .19 per round (From Last Week: +.01 Each After Unchanged (4Q, 2014))

.357 Magnum, 158 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Prvi Partizan, FMJ, .35 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 Rounds: SG Ammo, store brand, Bulk, FMJ, .38 per round (From Last Week: +.04 Each)

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 grain, From Last Week: +.01 Each After Unchanged (4Q, 2014)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Natchex Shooters Supplies, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: SG Ammo, Wolf WPA, steel cased, .23 per round (From Last Week: +.02 Each)

.308 NATO 145 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2014)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt, Silver Bear, steel cased, .41 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: SG Ammo, Silver Bear, steel cased, .45 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2014))

7.62x39 AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: +.02 each After Unchanged (3Q, 2014)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammunition to Go, Wolf WPA, steel case, .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: SG Ammo, Wolf Polyformance, steel case, .22 per round (From Last Week: +.01 Each)

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammomen, Remington Thunderbolt, RNL, .08 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 325 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Federal Automatch, .10 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles

.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $599 Last Week Avg: $560 (+) ($600 (16 Weeks), $515 (2 Weeks))
California (230, 222): Palmetto State Armory: $600 ($650 (5 Weeks), $425 (8 Weeks))
Texas (268, 260): Smith & Wesson: $600 ($675 (5 Weeks), $450 (20 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (142, 145): Palmetto State Armory: $500 ($600 (19 Weeks), $490 (9 Weeks))
Virginia (206, 217): Palmetto State Armory: $695 ($700 (2 Weeks), $500 (3 Weeks))
Florida (324, 319): Smith & Wesson: $600 ($600, $450 (17 Weeks))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $1,140 Last Week Avg: $1,034 (+) ($1,158 (11 Weeks), $953 (16 Weeks))
California (44, 45): Noreen AR15: $1,350 ($1,700 (10 Weeks)), $1,000 (11 Weeks))
Texas (54, 53): DPMS LR308: $1,000 ($1,500 (13 Weeks), $900 (17 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (34, 39): DPMS Sportical: $800 (!) ($1,100 (17 Weeks), $800 (6 Weeks))
Virginia (37, 38): Bushmaster: $1,450 ($1,450, $900 (14 Weeks))
Florida (47, 49): Mixed Build: $1,100 ($1,500 (14 Weeks), $750 (3 Weeks))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $649 Last Week Avg: $580 (+) ($569 (12 Weeks), $462 (13 Weeks))
California (50, 50): Saiga: $600 ($695 (13 Weeks), $320 (8 Weeks))
Texas (50, 49): Saiga: $699 ($699 (2 Weeks), $350 (15 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (57, 56): Norinco MAK 90: $695 ($750 (3 Weeks), $450 (16 Weeks))
Virginia (61, 71): CAI (Under Folder): $625 ($625, $350 (3 Weeks))
Florida (85, 93): WASR: $625 ($625, $300 (13 Weeks))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $425 Last Week Avg: $415 (+) ($489 (6 Weeks), $320 (5 Weeks))
California (14, 12): Mossberg 464: $400 ($400 (6 Weeks), $375 (8 Weeks))
Texas (14, 15): Winchester model 94: $525 ($550 (3 Weeks), $300 (7 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (11, 10): Winchester Model 94AE: $450 ($450 (2 Weeks), $250 (7 Weeks))
Virginia (5, 5): Marlin Model 30AS: $425 ($425 (4 Weeks), $350 (7 Weeks))
Florida (21, 17): Glenfield Mod 30A: $325 ($475 (2 Weeks), $300 (6 Weeks))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $427 Last Week Avg: $427 (=) ($450 (8 Weeks), $370 (7 Weeks))
California (159, 177): Thompson Auto Ordance 1911: $400 ($600 (3 Weeks), $350 (14 Weeks))
Texas (162, 167): Springfield: $450 ($600 (13 Weeks), $375 (16 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (168, 174): Tisas 1911 (Stainless): $450 ($525 (9 Weeks), $325 (11 Weeks))
Virginia (150, 139): Rock Island Armory: $385 ($495 (5 Weeks), $250 (10 Weeks))
Florida (304, 305): Para Ordnance (Stainless): $450 ($450 (3 Weeks), $350 (19 Weeks))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $315 Last Week Avg: $340 (-) ($335 (15 Weeks), $286 (5 Weeks))
California (167, 177): Ruger P89: $300 ($450 (2 Weeks), $250 (7 Weeks))
Texas (229, 231): Glock 34: $355 ($355, $235 (9 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (237, 242): EAA SAR B6P: $320 ($350 (18 Weeks), $275 (5 Weeks))
Virginia (183, 187): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $300 ($350 (19 Weeks), $275 (14 weeks))
Florida (382, 390): Ruger P95: $300 ($375 (10 Weeks), $270 (11 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $333 Last Week Avg: $320 (+) ($345 (15 Weeks), $300 (17 Weeks))
California (96, 91): Smith & Wesson SD40VE: $300 ($350 (20 Weeks), $250 (7 Weeks))
Texas (110, 110): Smith & Wesson SD40: $340 ($425 (13 Weeks), $300 (19 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (124, 122): Glock 27: $250 ($340 (15 Weeks), $250 (2 Weeks)
Virginia (89, 91): Glock 22: $375 ($450 (10 Weeks), $275 (6 Weeks))
Florida (178, 183): Stoeger: $400 ($400, $275 (16 Weeks))

Used Gun of the Week: (Wisconsin)
1906 M91 Mosin Nagant Chambered in 7.62x54R

Chris Covert writes for Rantburg.com. He can be reached at grurkka@gmail.com
Posted by:badanov

#7  The way they take rights away from everyone is to make everyone a criminal.
Posted by: Glenmore   2015-02-21 21:32  

#6  So, allow me to "'splain something" to you. Rights are for everyone, not just people you like, and if one group's rights are violated by the government, then YOUR rights are violated.

Bad -so let me splain something to you as well. Rights are NOT for everyone. So who doesn’t deserve their rights? Criminals! By simply being criminals they have forfeited their rights. And that doesn’t in any way shape or form violate my or your rights. But you knew that already. Bloomberg doesn’t want to disarm just minorities. He wants to disarm everybody! My guess is the reason he doesn’t want the audio of his statement released is NOT because it’s racist. It’s because it totally refutes his bullshit arguments of expanded background checks and the like.
Posted by: DepotGuy   2015-02-21 21:17  

#5  Sorry to be so harsh about all this, but this is the main reason I am even writing this column: Trying to do whatever good I can.

I know how those f*ckers work and if I can get folks to stop them cold, then what I do now will be worth it.

If not, it will still be worth it to let as many people as possible know what's on the menu for an expanding government: you.
Posted by: badanov   2015-02-21 18:11  

#4  Switchout racial profile with political profile and see the hook through the lure.

A tyrant who takes away rights from minorities will eventually find a way to make you a minority.

Bloombooger has nobody's interests in mind but his own legacy. Its really an infuriating comment that not all people are equal before the law, prejudicing you on how you were born, not what you have done.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2015-02-21 13:55  

#3  Thanks DG for being the caricature for 90 percent of gun owners.

You're fine with the RKBA as long as you have your rights, but when someone else's rights are assaulted or violated, they're just wife beaters, or criminals, and so you're fine when those people's rights are violated.

Until the moment your rights are threatened.

It is much the same when I illustrated how the ban on 7N6 ammunition went into effect, with not even a wiff of protest from AR owners. But ban M855 for the AR, then whoa! Holy Hell! Rights are violated! Someone do something!

I would bet that users of the AK-74 are saying, "F*ck you and your AR receiver! Where were you when the 7N6 were banned?"

So, let's play a game I call government statistics. Let us say that even though minorities comprise the grand majority of felons, they are still less than two percent of the population at large and a very small percentage of the total of all minorities.

How will you justify disarming the others, maybe in toto 40 percent of the population at large? Potential criminals? What would be your answer? Would I be "race baiting", when I point out that, like the 7N6 ban, it was just a test to see how far the government could go, when they finally conclude that the grand majority of AR owners should have their rifles taken from them? What do you do now? Do you appeal to the 40 percent of the population whose rights were violated? Or do they do, as you did? Conclude that those complaining are just "race baiting", just "using Alinskiitie tactics"

So, allow me to "'splain something" to you. Rights are for everyone, not just people you like, and if one group's rights are violated by the government, then YOUR rights are violated.

Otherwise the government moves with absolute impunity, as they are doing now, confident that people such as yourself won't give a flying f*ck about anyone else's rights until their own rights are violated?

You still get to decide.
Posted by: badanov   2015-02-21 13:08  

#2  One of the possible problems is that the ATF violated the law when the ban was imposed

Please, laws do not apply to this Administration.
Posted by: Glenmore   2015-02-21 12:31  

#1  From the link;

…a video of his speech in which he advocated for cities to bar minority males up to age 25 from having guns…Bloomberg’s racial disarmament proposal a key to distancing supporters.

I feel like a real peckerhead defending Bloomberg but twisting his statement into a racist proposition is not only foolish but counterproductive. First, he correctly identified that the majority of US violent crime is committed by young minorities in larger cities. He followed with an expressed desire to find ways to get guns out of their hands. The real issue here is that none of Bloombergs’ anti-gun proposals would accomplish his stated goal. The overwhelming majority of guns used in those crimes come from the Black market – not legally purchased. A wiser choice to counter the anti-gun folks is to continue to expose their ideas as both anti-constitutional and totally ineffective. But, please leave the Alinsky bullshit for the race-baiting turds.
Posted by: DepotGuy   2015-02-21 10:01  

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