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| 2014-08-01 |
Then what's the point of transferring anybody anywhere for treatment?
Except for viral ailments like Hep C and chickenpox, among others, which typically do not clear. Is Ebola well characterized? |
| Posted by:Anguper Hupomosing9418 |
| #10 Wall Street Journal reports here that 2 workers developed fever after handling the US citizen who died after flying to Nigeria " By Friday, only two had developed a fever—the handlers who helped Mr. Sawyer into a wheelchair. Their blood tested negative, and they are still under close watch." |
| Posted by: anon1 2014-08-01 21:37 |
| #9 interestingly they are going to treat Dr Brantly with a pint of blood taken from a 14-year-old convalescent survivor this is the only treatment that has ever worked - some African doctors tried it on a dying nurse in Kikwit, 1995 she survived. They had to fight the white western doctors to do it though. They were dead against it because they had no screening facility for other blood borne diseases and just a quick test for AIDS. They said: what if she has some other disease and we infect her. But the blacks conspired among themselves and said: we do know what she has - ebola. She'll die anyway so let's just experiment And lo, she survived. they then exerimented on (i think) 9 others and 8 survived. There's a great YouTube doco on it that shows them making the decision etc... |
| Posted by: anon1 2014-08-01 21:24 |
| #8 NIH working on an experimental ebola vaccine that should be ready for trials in humans in September. Experimental vaccine. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2014-08-01 19:41 |
| #7 Frightening world we live in. |
| Posted by: 49 Pan 2014-08-01 19:32 |
| #6 This just does not make sense Unless your intent is to radically change the demography of the country. Now who would be interested in doing that? When Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn led the domestic terrorist group Weather Underground in 1969, a chance meeting led Army veteran Larry Grathwohl into joining the group. Grathwohl served as a courier, running messages between the group’s leadership (called the “Weather Bureau”) and individual cells that were to carry out attacks. Grathwohl was also an informant for the FBI. In an interview from the 1982 documentary No Place To Hide that recently surfaced, Grathwohl discussed what the Weathermen intended to do after overthrowing the U.S. government, including what they would do with those Americans who refused to embrace communism. I asked, “Well what is going to happen to those people we can’t reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?” And the reply was that they’d have to be eliminated. And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers. And when I say “eliminate,” I mean “kill.” Twenty-five million people. I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people. And they were dead serious. cite and who is a Bill Ayers protege? |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2014-08-01 19:06 |
| #5 I wonder if any of the antiviral drugs have any effectiveness against ebola virus? |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2014-08-01 17:21 |
| #4 Last rant, it has a 21 day gestation period before any symptoms arise. The CDC workers come in every day, exposed to the virus and go home. They kiss their kids, make love to their spouses, and go out to bars. An exposed nurse could infect thousands unknowingly before they show symptoms. This just does not make sense. |
| Posted by: 49 Pan 2014-08-01 16:09 |
| #3 Flags and sirens go off with this. Its 90% fatal. Yet the CDC and our president say its not all that infectious. The people helping them are in full protective gear, the CDC say it is low risk. They are being flown in a special plane, one at a time. The are being transferred is a special containment container, but there is no need to worry. The virus is not in America right now, why not keep it that way. We are introducing this virus, through infected hosts, to the US. And we are supposed to trust the CDC, the same CDC that lost Bubonic plague last month? This is going to go bad. Its not the people, it s the handling of their waste and medical waste. I cant imagine why we would do this, other than to study these two as lab rats. |
| Posted by: 49 Pan 2014-08-01 16:03 |
| #2 I put forward the theory that Ebola was an old primitive virus harbored for maybe hundreds of millions of years in clays, this was back in the 90s on a usenet ".bio" group. My proposal still gets seriously discussed but doesn't look like anybody put effort into checking it out. (I know nothing about that kind of biology but just looked at common events described in various books.) The reason I think its old is it kills too fast. AIDS is a successful virus. It takes a long time to kill you so you have lots of chances to spread it wide. Ebola quickly kills lifeforms near it so limits its own spread and dies out. Signs of a more aggressive and primitive virus. Evolution doesn't favor that kind of aggression. Clay as a reservoir because viruses don't have a shell to protect them. Clay can behave as cellular walls and do so for millions and millions of years protecting the bio material inside. The oldest biological material found in clays was billions of years old. It wasn't functional but it was old and protected enough to be analyzed. They have never found a reservoir in animals to a non-biological one makes some sense. Considering ebola dissolves the cells of its host it makes more sense. |
| Posted by: 3dc 2014-08-01 12:48 |
| #1 I'm not sure they understand its transmission vectors very well either. They have lost a number of healthcare workers who were presumably taking every precaution. |
| Posted by: bigjim-CA 2014-08-01 12:05 |