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Iraq
Declaring caliphate has 'no meaning': US
2014-07-01
The United States said on Monday the declaration by militants of an "Islamic caliphate" on territory they have seized in Iraq and Syria has "no meaning."
Too bad no one in that part of the world listens to Champ...
"We have seen these types of words or comparable claims from Isil before," State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters, referring to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant militant group.
Ummm... No, we haven't.
"This declaration has no meaning for the people in Iraq and Syria," she said, adding that it just "exposed the true nature of this organization and its desire to control people by fear."
The meaning to the people of Iraq and Syria is that the turbans now control enough territory to declare their state, and they're confident they're strong enough to keep it. They've got lots of people who've been pushing the caliphate idea for years, people like all of Hezb ut-Tahrir and al-Muhajiroun (now whatever Anjem Chaudry's calling it), and Omar Bakri Mohammad, whom the Lebs jugged a week or so ago for his involvement with jihad. They've got a world-wide recruiting organization and lots of financial backing from the Devout™. If they can keep Baiji they're probably self-supporting.
"This is a critical moment for the international community, for countries in the region, for all of the Iraqi people to unite against the threats that they face," Psaki said, while stressing she did not want to "overemphasise" the declaration's impact.
It's a critical moment, but she doesn't want to over-emphasize it. That makes sense. Not a lot of sense, but sense. Of a sort.
The White House said the militants spearheading the offensive in Iraq had waged "a campaign of terror of gross acts of violence and repressive ideology that pose a grave threat to Iraq's future."
They aren't any different from Zarqawi, or from the bunch that was active in Saudi Arabia until the princes cracked down. Remember the guy who kept the murdered contractor's head in his refrigerator? The Taliban did the same sort of thing. Remember the Bamian Buddhas?All that stuff's far away and it has nothing to do with the U.S.A., does it? It's not like they attacked New York or something.

Oh. Wait. They did.

But that was a long time ago. We were all so much younger then.

"Isil is not fighting for a stronger Iraq. Isil is fighting to destroy Iraq. And that's why you've seen this administration work closely with Iraq's political leaders to encourage them to unite the country as they confront this existential threat," spokesman Josh Earnest said.
So where's the "Shock and Awe" part, Josh, if it's all that important?
With Iraq's parliament scheduled to hold its opening session on Tuesday following April elections, Psaki said Washington was "continuing to urge Iraqi leaders to come to an agreement on the three critical posts that are key to forming Iraq's next government."
That means they want to dump Maliki, whom Iran and Russia don't want to dump even though Sistani does.
Posted by:Steve White

#11  Al-BAGHDADI + his ISIS?ISIL Boyz are threatening ROME this AM ... ...

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > ISIS' BAGHDAID CALLS ON MUSLIMS TO FIGHT UNTIL ROME [+ World] IS CONQUERED - TELEGRAPH.

* RELATED TOPIX > [SMH] IRAQ: LET US NOW CONQUER ROME, LEADER OF "ISLAMIC STATE" [Caliphate] TELLS MUSLIMS.

D *** NG IT, ISIS, DATS THE JOB OF THE FUTURE US CONVERT TO ISLAM THE "HIDDEN IMAM/MAHDI".

Looks like AL-BAGHDADI has studied the THIRD SECRET OF FATIMA.

All thats missing is PLANET X = NIBIRU, or THE SUN TO EXPLODE, EXPAND DESTABILIZING THE ORBITS OF MERCURY + INNER PLANETS VEE EARTH???

* RT > ISIS LEADER CALLS ON MUSLIMS: GO TO IRAQ + SYRIA TO "HELP BUILD [+ defend, expand] ISLAMIC STATE".

* WAFF > [Radikal.com] ISID: "WE WILL TAKE MECCA, BURN THE KA'ABA, + KILL THE PILGRIMS! ONLY GOD WILL BE WORSHIPPED FROM NOW ON"!

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > VIDEO: ISIS PLANS TO USE [fire = launch] CAPTURED SYRIAN SCUD ON SAUDI ARABIA.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2014-07-01 23:04  

#10  Anyone sane would realize that trying to argue with the jihadis about stuff gives them more credibility than they deserve.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2014-07-01 21:39  

#9  I wonder if anybody is looking at the opportunities afforded by such a declaration. As AlanC notes, who runs the caliphate isn't obvious from Islamic principles, and there are plenty of candidates who, with a little encouragement, might be willing to dispute each others' claims.
Posted by: James   2014-07-01 18:17  

#8  These kids/amateurs should all be fired and replaced with someone who knows what the heck they are doing. They should pay great attention to this growing menace, get their "collective" heads out of the sand and figure out how to deal with it. There is no identifiable coherent strategy.
Posted by: JohnQC   2014-07-01 17:19  

#7  What do the head turbans in Qom, Cairo, Mecca etc. have to say about this?

The one in Cairo is being very quiet.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2014-07-01 16:35  

#6  The head turbans are waiting to see if ISIS can keep what it has gained. If they still have it in a few months the "idea of caliphate" will start to take hold.
Posted by: irishrageboy   2014-07-01 15:07  

#5  But what does it mean to Saudi Arabia? After all, isn't posession of the two Mosques the n'est plus ultra of Islamic control? One would think that a caliphate has to have that to have legitimacy.

What do the head turbans in Qom, Cairo, Mecca etc. have to say about this?
Posted by: AlanC   2014-07-01 08:19  

#4  "Declaring caliphate has 'no meaning': US"
Yeah, it's right up there with Obama's Nobel Prize.
Posted by: ed in texas   2014-07-01 07:44  

#3  IOW, this administration and the State Dept. are utterly clueless.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2014-07-01 07:41  

#2  IOW, Obean doesn't get what it means.
Posted by: gorb   2014-07-01 01:51  

#1  The good side is that only one political entity would hate us!


Posted by: borgboy   2014-07-01 00:46  

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