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Ukraine disbands army unit after fiasco push into east
2014-04-28
Ukraine's defence ministry said in a statement that the column of armoured vehicles and soldiers blockaded a day earlier by pro-Russian activists in the town of Kramatorsk was returning to base after the tense stand-off.

"The 25th parachute brigade, members of which showed cowardice and gave up their weapons, will be demobilised and the guilty servicemen brought before court," acting President Oleksandr Turchynov told parliament.

The defeat represents a blow to the morale of Ukraine's armed forces and Kiev's hopes of regaining control over its eastern industrial areas.

Note: This is the one and only Airborne (Parachute) unit in their army, and supposedly one of the few to be constantly held to readiness and higher training standards. Yowza. FYI original article is very slanted with loaded terms, pejorative language, and overt bias, so read with a large grain of salt..
Posted by:OldSpook

#10  Thing's post and question, but yes. Nearly anyone north of the Midlands falls into that category. Churchill was said to have drank heavily to escape those he was forced to work with in parliament, and stave off the inevitable self-loathing.
Posted by: Besoeker   2014-04-28 18:04  

#9  Besoeker, I think those kind of folks in the UK are called "Scots". Or Welsh.
Posted by: OldSpook   2014-04-28 17:50  

#8  Bright Pebbles: Can I find civilians in your country who don't want to be British-British?
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2014-04-28 10:48  

#7  And yes, this was probably planned and laid in a while back as a contingency operation, Putin just needed the right opportunity.

Yes, complete with feigned outrage from the Champ.
Posted by: Besoeker   2014-04-28 09:56  

#6  At this point, the eastern provinces going to Russia are pretty much a fait accompli. Putin completely out maneuvered Obama and the Clinton/Kerry state department. And yes, this was probably planned and laid in a while back as a contingency operation, Putin just needed the right opportunity. He has been messing with the Ukraine ever since the Orange revolution.

The only thing to be retained is a partial Ukraine republic that's west of a N-S line along the central segment of the Dnepr river. And that will have to be as a NATO affiliated country, with a lot of help from the Poles and Germans.
Posted by: OldSpook   2014-04-28 09:50  

#5  Well If the civilians don't want to be Ukrainian, then you're not helping them.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2014-04-28 09:06  

#4  They went into a situation where they had to choose between shooting civilians and not doing their mission, because that's the way Vlad has been setting things up.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2014-04-28 08:40  

#3  Well actually, I'm a sucker for stories about gladiators paratroopers.
Posted by: Besoeker   2014-04-28 08:17  

#2  Its pretty obvious the article's author had an axe to grind, so I just grabbed what I thought was the wheat from the chaff, and left you the original in case you wanted to see what my biases are (like the mainstream press I realize that I am human and therefore have inherent biases, unlike them, I'm open about mine).
Posted by: OldSpook   2014-04-28 08:14  

#1  Pejorative language, and overt bias? No additional incentive required. Thanks OS.
Posted by: Besoeker   2014-04-28 08:10  

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