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| Kos Kid: To hell with the Second Amendment |
| 2013-12-17 |
| Kos Kid, so it's easy pickins. Thanks to Mike Vanderboegh After watching CNN's special on Guns today with a special focus on suicides by gun (more veterans of our wars committed suicide last year then were killed in Afghanistan), I am more convinced than ever that the United States of America has to come to terms with separating weapons from veterans in mental crisis. Nice hook. The subtext is the kind of massive government involvement the left loves. And after the recent shooting in Colorado after an eighteen year old purchased a shotgun legally less than a week before critically wounding another student then taking his own life, I am for a lengthy waiting period before buying a weapon and also having the purchaser take a comprehensive safety course on such a weapon and being interviewed by a mental health professional to determine the reason for and necessity for buying such a weapon and if a student and living at home the mental health professional would also interview the parents, guardians, and teachers of a younger age buyer if they are aware of this would-be weapon owner's desire. Waitaminut. You were talking about veterans. What does a Kommie Kid have to do with your opening argument? Also, the writer wants every potential new gun purchaser to get an interview by the "mental health" professional, you know: The kind the government licenses. I don't see any potential for abuse there. No sirree bob! You'll notice after the due notice of veterans, to "protect them", this Kos Kid does not include any reference to veterans after that hook. The cost of such a comprehensive background check would be paid for by the gun manufacturers of America and the NRA. Included in the purchase of the weapon if all the checks are done would be malpractice insurance covering the use of the weapon in connection with any criminal act by the purchaser. Which, as you will note, do not go to the polls to vote. Nice one. You're a big hero going against the evil, greedy corporation all the while failing to note their abject lack of political influence. And as for criminal acts, can we include the cops with this? No weapon should ever be sold over the internet nor should ammo be sold in this way. Thus spake the internet fascist. All guns and ammo should be sold through gun dealers. No gun show loopholes Just admit it. This is total disarmament for your political opponents, using the offices of the government to do the dirty work you refuse to do. All those who purchase said weapons would have to notify the police and the FBI that they have bought a weapon and show proof that there is a proper gun safe at home. Because of the extra police work involved, there should be levied a "sin" tax on the weapon as well paid for by purchaser. Why is it statists and fascists are always wanting to increase the coffers of the one entity that prints and is supposed to maintain the currency? Ever wonder why that is so? Since gun owners have proudly showed on youtube clips how easy it is to change magazine clips of 30 or less rounds, effectively a semi-automatic operates as an automatic and therefore should be outright banned for sale in the United States. More revenge against political opponents using the offices of government as your personal army. To eliminate gun violence on the streets of Detroit, New Orleans, and other plagued inner cities where it is "fast and furious" and straw purchased guns are sold illegally, it is necessary to institute a gun registration so that every gun can be traced back to its original purchaser. Virginia: Get a gun. Seriously. My understanding of the Second Amendment in that the right to keep and bear arms was in context of a "well-regulated militia" in place of a standing army at the time of its passage which there was none. Now we do have such standing armies and the National Guard and local police. Your understanding sux. That phrase was intended to allow gun owners to retain their weapons regardless of whether they are in an militia or not. Now, my Second Amendment understanding has evolved thanks to fascists like Virginia to mean the remaining bulwark against a tyranny imposed by a majority. You know, like imposing restrictions on a right in the Bill of Rights. Frankly, the ability of any Tom, Dick,Harry, SusieQ, to buy any weapon or ammo without adequate scrutiny has made life cheap and unless a person has eyes in the back of his or her head, makes no one safer. Gun laws are not written to make anyone safer, but the thugs who are in law enforcement and their political and elected paymasters Elimination of gun laws allow every one to be safe regardless if they are fascists like Virginia or anyone else. More draconian gun laws make everything worse and just add to the possibility of open armed revolt.. |
| Posted by:badanov |
| #16 The only reason your allowed to say something stupid is because we own the guns and have defended your right to free speech. Take away the guns and your free speech will soon follow. |
| Posted by: 49 Pan 2013-12-17 17:08 |
| #15 I could be wrong but I remember seeing a statistic about gun control in Australia. they removed the guns and the suicide rate remained the same. Folks just chose other options. I think murder went down but violent crime went way up. Get rid of guns and its the strong over the weak. Be that the government holding down the masses, gangs controlling the streets, or just the bigger guy controlling the ally. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2013-12-17 14:41 |
| #14 Another know it all who has never experienced the real world. Nanny boy. |
| Posted by: newc 2013-12-17 14:20 |
| #13 Some people just don't get that they are totally free to go without exercising every last one of their individual rights. They just are not allowed to make their choice my choice also. Confusing for a weak mind, I know, but there it is... |
| Posted by: M. Murcek 2013-12-17 12:37 |
| #12 *And apologies if the linker is Vanderboegh is my lightning rod, I can't tell from the article and links. I see a Bill Moyers also. My point remains unchanged regardless of the petite tyrant's name. And the alert system is there, it isn't allowed to be used. You knock down the siren because everyone is special then bitch when a tornado rips through town and people die because they had no warning. |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2013-12-17 11:39 |
| #11 The push for such seems to be coming from a tie in between the two; why the opening statement is such a duck from the remaining content. That is the talking point, the writer just didn't have a cracker in the box to match that dip so it seems awkward. Example, other than the military tack, is the effort to dig up Jovan Belcher, infamous KC Chiefs murder/suicide made famous chinese olympics phile claiming it was too much howdy doody as a child which allowed the djinn in the ten to take control of his reflexes down his baby's momma then himself. The concept is that traumatic brain injury - from sports in this case - causes people to fall under the spell of gun violence. The idea is plausable, of course, because the SOP is to take a plausable idea, change the language with the dictate, to change the meaning. This gives the opening for talking head to put their palms up and pine about culture and the degradation of sport, all sport, even fabled soccer. The fact that other than having to scrape evidence off of the ticket collection booth for traumatic injury, there will be no discussion of his blood alcohol content, substance abuse, and his behavior, all of which can be traced back to his youth. So what do I do if a once and future top level athletic 18 year old decides to kick in my door and take my TV while I am at home with the kids because free shit y'all? Use foul language? Sit in timeout? Hope he has remaining morals to not use his authority to beat my family and me, in front of my family? Report him to the police and my kids get ambushed? Shit on you. I actually get the brigand of free shit; get the best at least cost, and if that only involves lifting weights, getting crunked, and picking up the check at the first of the month to go buy the newest game then kick someone's ass for a TV, then that is the profession. This Mikey Vandermouse is going to sit in his comfy chair, watch his TV, and say that I do not have this choice, this right, to defend myself because CNN hurt his feelings? The tell that this is not a serious article is the inclusion of the NRA, a private right to assemble group uninvolved in the technical production or purchase of a firearm. That is authoritarianism, that is tyranny, and that is what Vanderpooter is advocating. Both crime and tyranny existed before our Constitution was penned. Perhaps, there is a reason for the 2nd ammendment Mike. |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2013-12-17 11:30 |
| #10 It is about control. Now that the government is in the condom business Democrats use that to terrorize women to vote for them. That's what all that 'War on Women' crap during the last election was about - the Democrats via Sandra Fluke basically saying "If you vote for a republican you won't be able to boink some guy 2.7 times a day - every day" which was BS - you would still be able to be a slut like Fluke - you would just have to buy your own condoms. Now that they will have healthcare just think what the threats will entail. Threatening Seniors is their favorite tactic. Next is people's kids. We saw some of this during the Obumblecare effort - kids claiming they won't be able to get treatment for cancer or some dreaded desease because the government doesn't provide it (nevermind that it's their *parents* responsibility). When they control guns, they won't have to threaten any more. |
| Posted by: CrazyFool 2013-12-17 11:18 |
| #9 There are too many issues to address in the Kos Kid's piece. He is all over the map with the article. He wants to take guns from veterans who are having psychological problems. Why single out vets? He mentions nothing about a legal due process that applies to all citizens. Background checks should be paid by the manufacturer? Why? Presently, when purchasing a firearm such background checks are usually paid by the purchaser. Gun show loopholes? All guns and ammo should be sold through gun dealers. No gun show loopholes. Guns sold over the internet? You still have to go through a dealer with a FLL. He mentions nothing about the thugocracy underclass in this country who doesn't give a damn about the law. He mentions nothing about all the guns laws that are in already in place that are not obeyed by this thug underclass. He doesn't really say much about the fact that many recent shootings have been done by nut jobs. The article is full of non sequitur after non sequitur. Another article where a left-wing extremist writer just doesn't like firearms and wants to shove his opinion off on everyone else naively thinking that he has done something useful. Does he mention anything about the murder/carjacking that occurred in NJ yesterday. Or the many other similar occurrences that are in the news everyday. Does he mention the situations where people have protected themselves with guns. There are times when violence does solve problems. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2013-12-17 11:11 |
| #8 Gun Control: The registering of the entire population for use of a product in order to regulate it, with exceptions made for special classes such as law enforcement officials, security companies, and politicians. The registering of the entire population for use of a product in order to regulate it, with exceptions made for special classes such as unions, fast food, and politicians. :Obamacare |
| Posted by: swksvolFF 2013-12-17 10:55 |
| #7 They should be passing out confiscated guns and ammo to law abiding citizens like they do condoms. They won't as it is about control. You can control people with making them dependent on the other things. Hard to make people dependent on you with guns and weapons. Kinda makes people go the opposite way once they can defend themselves. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2013-12-17 09:06 |
| #6 The leftist never fail to see a reason to subsidize constitutional rights (real or perceived) such as abortion, housing, healthcare, free speech, GIVERnment outreach.... But never for gun ownership. They should be passing out confiscated guns and ammo to law abiding citizens like they do condoms. |
| Posted by: Airandee 2013-12-17 06:41 |
| #5 #1 Every single one of the shooters since Obama took office (except for possibly the guy who shot up a TSA checkpoint recently) were rabid liberals and occurred in areas already under heavy liberal gun controlled (also-known-as kill boxes of the un-armed at the mercy of wide-eyed, crazed, heavily armed liberals). Doesn't matter. A Communist killed Kennedy fifty years ago and they still tell themselves it was a right wing plot. When a major part of your personal philosophy and politics consists of maintaining a narrative which elevates yourself and your fellow travelers to the status of perfect beings, you cannot admit stuff like that. |
| Posted by: no mo uro 2013-12-17 05:17 |
| #4 Frankly, the ability ... to FIFY |
| Posted by: BrerRabbit 2013-12-17 05:06 |
| #3 Nice nym, anyway. It seems she and her pals are not entirely convinced of the advisibility of a confiscational children's crusade, with or without "whose army." |
| Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 2013-12-17 02:18 |
| #2 Frankly, the ability of any Tom, Dick,Harry, SusieQ, to buy any weapon or ammo without adequate scrutiny has made life cheap and unless a person has eyes in the back of his or her head, makes no one safer. Nothing says "safety" and "making life cheap" like Doctor Kermit Gosnell. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2013-12-17 01:47 |
| #1 Every single one of the shooters since Obama took office (except for possibly the guy who shot up a TSA checkpoint recently) were rabid liberals and occurred in areas already under heavy liberal gun controlled (also-known-as kill boxes of the un-armed at the mercy of wide-eyed, crazed, heavily armed liberals). Therefore, we 2nd Amenderites have good reason for keeping our HEAT handy. |
| Posted by: Guillibaldo McCoy1948 2013-12-17 00:40 |