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-Land of the Free
This Week in Guns, July 13th, 2013
2013-07-13
By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

Rhode Island legislators adjourned last week after a bill aimed at banning assault weapon was tabled for the session. Other measures did pass including a law making it illegal to commit a crime with a stolen gun. (WTF?!)

Ruger Firearms opens a new factory in North Carolina, taking advantage of NC's right to work status, and more likely, less tyrannical political class. No word if Beretta is planning to exit Maryland.

If you have the ability to use a firearm for self defense and the ammunition, consider getting some tactical firearms training from former British special forces Max Velocity. Max conducts weekly field training classes on the basics of tactics in the field. Even if you don't believe the US will decline into civil war, it would be better to know how to counter hostiles who are gunning for you.

And finally, homemade Glocks.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition.

Pistol Ammo

.45 caliber, 230 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt: TulAmmo FMJ Steel cased .42 per round
Cheapest Brass cased, 50 rounds: BattleBag Ammo, Fiocchi .43 per round

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson,180 grain, From Last Week: -.02 each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ventura Munitions, Ventura Tactical, .35 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: LAX Ammunition, reloaded, .30 per round

9mm Parabellum, 115 grain, From Last Week: -.04 each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: High Country Ammunition, Range Master, .34 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1000 rounds: Bluecore Shooting Center, reloaded, .30 per round

.357 Magnum, 158 grain, From Last Week: +.01 each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Bud's Gun Shop, Fiocchi .49 per round
Cheapest, Bulk 250 rounds: LAX Ammunition, reloaded, .42 per round

Rifle Ammunition


.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 grain, From Last Week: -.01 each
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammunition to Go, Prvi Partizan FMJ, .46 per round
Cheapest Bulk 1000 rounds: Battle Bag Ammo, reloaded, .47 per round

.308 NATO 145 grain, From Last Week: -.10 each
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammuniton Depot, Ruag Ammotec FMJ, .60 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: United Nations Ammo, Ruag MFS steel case FMJ, .65 per round

7.62x39 AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Firearms for Sale,Wolf Ammo, steel core and case, .30 per round
Cheapest, Bulk, 1000 rounds: Ventura Munitions, Wolf Ammo, steel core and case, .27 per round
Cheapest, Brass casing: LAX Ammunition, Fiocchi, .55 per round for 1000

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammunition to Go, Centurion, .13 per round
Cheapest, Bulk, 1000 rounds: Ammunition to Go, Centurion, .12 per round

Guns for Private Sale

Rifles
.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic)
California: Smith & Wesson: $950
Texas Colt .223: $700
New York: Bushmaster C-15 .223: $1,450
Maryland: DPMS Custom .223, Stainless Bull Barrel: $1,690
Florida: Smith & Wesson, Stainless Bull Barrel: $875

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic)
California: Smith & Wesson: $2,500
Texas: Bushmaster: $1,350
New York: FN Herstal SCAR-H: $2,439
Maryland: Sig Sauer, 716 Patrollman: $1,650
Florida: Rock River Arms LAR-8: $1,700 (Same rifle as last week)

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic)

California: M&M: $1,300
Texas: Romanian Underfolder: $800
New York: Saiga: $1,000
Maryland: Saiga: $900
Florida: AMD65: $900

7.62x54mm (Dragunov Pattern Semiautomatic)
California: Romak PSL: $1,850
Texas: Romak PSL, No price
New York: None
Maryland: None
Florida: Romak PSL: $1,100

.45 caliber ACP (M-1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol)
California: Springfield, Stainless Steel : $1,100
Texas: Dan Wesson, $875
New York: Kimber Tactical Entry II, $1,000
Maryland: Rock Island Armory, Citadel, $600
Florida: Springfield (Short barrel): $600
Posted by:badanov

#14  Beretta isn't leaving MD, but any expansion will not be done in MD either.

http://blog.berettausa.com/bid/292160/Response-to-Gov-O-Malley-s-signature-of-SB281-Your-Gun-Rights
Posted by: Chantry   2013-07-13 19:59  

#13   would a MetalStorm style gun be easier to make oneself than the MAC in the article?

I imagine the trick with MetalStorm is to get the rounds to fire off in proper sequence, one at a time; as opposed to cooking off en masse, which would result in a Sh*tStorm.
Posted by: SteveS   2013-07-13 17:20  

#12  Glenmore:

Go to http://forum.m1911.org and register. Then in the Forums go to US Military Issue M1911 and M1911A1 Pistols and start a thread regarding your Grandfathers M1911 and I'll find you. We can work from there.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2013-07-13 17:01  

#11  Glenmore:

Open an account at Photobucket. It's free for the first GB or so. You can upload your pictures and then link to them for what ever you wish. I do this all the time on the various Gun Forums related to Military or M1911 collections.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2013-07-13 16:53  

#10  but I can't imagine we are not already under constant scan by the government.
Posted by Glenmore


Some things must simply be assumed.

[Nice photo GB. Looks great against that US Army Infantry Blue backdrop] ;-)
Posted by: Besoeker   2013-07-13 16:31  

#9  Golf Bravo, I should get a nice picture of mine ("My old Warhorse 1941 M1911A1 Colt 45") and figure out how to post it - 1915 M1911 - my grandfather's WWI sidearm. Not quite identical, but incredibly close.
Posted by: Glenmore   2013-07-13 15:57  

#8  If this was a site that might otherwise slide underneath NSA etc.'s radar, I would completely agree with Besoeker's unease, but I can't imagine we are not already under constant scan by the government.
Posted by: Glenmore   2013-07-13 15:54  

#7  If people don't "like" guns or want to read about guns and ammo, they can just skip the posting.
Posted by: Barbara   2013-07-13 13:52  

#6  I also think the topic should be kept open without stigma. When things are not talked about is when they get weird; that's what the 1st is really about.

Thank you, swksvolFF.

That is what this series is about. If speaking about a subject becomes evaluated as whether it is "appropriate or healthy", we really are in serious trouble, so talking about those subjects become necessary.
Posted by: badanov   2013-07-13 12:45  

#5  Â“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.”

Robert A. Heinlein
Posted by: flash91   2013-07-13 11:42  

#4  I think I understand what Besoeker is getting at; no coconuts.

Humbly, Choosing whether or not to have a firearm for personal protection (not recreation or professionally) is a very personal choice, and should be made with a level approach to what you can and cannot do. It is a tool, and should be treated as such, and the first time you use a chainsaw should not be at 10' in the air on a 6" branch. Train up. Build the muscle memory. Like shoes, make sure it fits, try some on before purchase.

A few weekends ago my wife, her good friend, and our daughters went camping. Some neighbors were being -weird- , mind this part of the country has the meth, meth dealers, and the 10am drunks. They went unarmed and decided the wise thing to do was to pack up and cancel; even if she was armed. That being said, if the squirrel jumped they would have been SOOL as immediate help was 30 minutes out, with the outside bet on another neighbor being a knight.

And it is a topic considered outside polite conversation with people being reported for pop tarts. I recall being called a fascist brownshirt for even considering an 870 20g. It was like being charged with vehicular homicide for talking about golf carts.

I also think the topic should be kept open without stigma. When things are not talked about is when they get weird; that's what the 1st is really about.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2013-07-13 11:25  

#3  With great respect to Badanov, mods, and others, I enthusiastically support "Land of the Free" as a category, but weapons, weapons tactics, and gun building articles may not be appropriate or healthy content for this site.
Posted by: Besoeker   2013-07-13 08:34  

#2  would a MetalStorm style gun be easier to make oneself than the MAC in the article?
link
Posted by: 3dc   2013-07-13 03:37  

#1  My old Warhorse 1941 M1911A1 Colt 45

"Coltwood" Grips replaced Large Double Diamonds photo P1020381_zps8be9bc75.jpg

Member Ammo prices at my local Sportsman's shooting range:

22LR $15 for 325rds @.046 per round
9MM $12 for 50rds @.24 per round
45 Cal ACP $16 for 50rds @.32 per round
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2013-07-13 01:50  

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