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| San Francisco plane crash: 2 dead, 130 taken to hospitals |
| 2013-07-07 |
| Non-WoT at this point. Two people were killed and 130 were sent to hospitals after an Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 with more than 300 people on board crashed on landing at San Francisco International Airport on Saturday.The crash occurred as the plane was landing at a runway that began at the edge of San Francisco Bay. TV news footage showed crash debris right at the start of the landing strip where it met the water. The plane may have been too low and descended too quickly on its approach to the runway, according to data from the last three minutes of the flight from flightaware.com, a leading flight tracking service. The plane's rate of descent dropped abruptly, then it increased its altitude to 200 feet from 100 feet, which possibly indicates the pilot tried to power up the engines and climb in the final seconds in an unsuccessful attempt to stay in the air and touch down in the landing zone of the runway. It appeared the plane landed short of the runway. A portion of the aircraft hit a non-landing area of the runway prior to the touchdown zone. The plane appeared to hit the seawall dividing the airport runway from San Francisco Bay, possibly causing the tail to come apart. Multiple sources told The Los Angeles Times there was no reported trouble or declared emergency on the plane. The passengers included 141 Chinese, 77 South Koreans and 61 U.S. citizens. All the 307 people on board have been accounted for, the city's mayor told reporters. Air traffic at the airport was halted immediately after the crash, but flights resumed on two runways several hours later. Boeing expressed concern for those on board the flight and added that it will provide technical assistance to the NTSB as it investigates the accident. |
| Posted by:Pappy |
| #12 Heard NTSB gal on the news: plane was bleeding off altitude for approach with throttles in idle position. Seconds before impact, throttles were advanced and someone in the cockpit made a call for a go-around. |
| Posted by: SteveS 2013-07-07 19:35 |
| #11 Drudge has a link to video from guy 'just filming' at moment of impact; also running on CNN; airplane is definitely too low. |
| Posted by: USN, Ret. 2013-07-07 17:14 |
| #10 “For now, we acknowledge that there were no problems caused by the 777-200 plane or engines,” Yoon Young-doo [president of Asiana Airlines] said at the company’s headquarters. Looking more and more like pilot error. |
| Posted by: Squinty 2013-07-07 13:28 |
| #9 But let's not overlook the possibility that (1) ATC, for whatever reason, left 'em too high for the approach gate, and (2) The PIC accepted the Clearance-to-Land without having established a stabilized approach. Shared responsibility if this is the case, but, as is cynically said, "ATC means you never have to say you're sorry.".... |
| Posted by: Uncle Phester 2013-07-07 13:27 |
| #8 What's Korean for "ooops"? Co-pilot-san error..... |
| Posted by: Uncle Phester 2013-07-07 13:22 |
| #7 I knew he had to be flaired up to bonk the tail off. What's Korean for "ooops"? |
| Posted by: Mugsy Glink 2013-07-07 12:49 |
| #6 Update: a/c was on a steeper-than-normal approach (>3-degrees). Power not added in time to stabilize approach / overcome inertia. Gravity sux.... |
| Posted by: Uncle Phester 2013-07-07 12:28 |
| #5 It will be found to be cultural error, but no one will say so out loud. Posted by Nimble Spemble Exactly! No one challenges the Captain. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2013-07-07 11:36 |
| #4 Am certain that Mugsy is correct. The big question is why the PAPI's were not captured and followed long before the arrival ("Make short approach." issue?). The following would seem to imply that all was OK before the accident (The '77 prolly took out the lights during the skid-out): NOTAM SFO 07/046 !SFO 07/046 SFO RWY 28L PAPI OTS WEF 1307062219 CREATED: 06 Jul 2013 22:19:00 SOURCE: KOAKYFYX |
| Posted by: Uncle Phester 2013-07-07 11:15 |
| #3 It will be found to be cultural error, but no one will say so out loud. |
| Posted by: Nimble Spemble 2013-07-07 10:05 |
| #2 It will be gross pilot error since he came in too low over the bay and knocked the tail section off at the end of the runway. |
| Posted by: Mugsy Glink 2013-07-07 09:53 |
| #1 Nietzsche once again disproven. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2013-07-07 07:27 |