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Britain
Doctors Call for Ban on Kitchen Knives
2012-12-29
Late add: I was going to note that this was from 2005 at the beginning of the article, but forgot. The point of posting it was to show up a particular British commenter who sniffed to the effect that 'gun murders don't happen' in Albion. Apparently forgotten is that humans will find other methods.
A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings. They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon. The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all.

They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen. None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.
Chefs said that they didn't need .. chefs knives?
Y'gotta pick the chefs you ask, of course...
Did they ask them at knifepoint?
They don't need 'em down at the Burger King. They got a machine to slice the onions.
It is true that the point of a small paring knife is best for pointy work. But the blade of a longer knife is much, much better for slicing and chopping and cutting up large pieces of meat. Possibly these particular chefs are looking for more customers for their various expensive restaurants.
The researchers said a short pointed knife may cause a substantial superficial wound if used in an assault - but is unlikely to penetrate to inner organs.

The study found links between easy access to domestic knives and violent assault are long established. French laws in the 17th century decreed that the tips of table and street knives be ground smooth. A century later, forks and blunt-ended table knives were introduced in the UK in an effort to reduce injuries during arguments in public eating houses. The research is published in the British Medical Journal.

The researchers say legislation to ban the sale of long pointed knives would be a key step in the fight against violent crime.

[A] Home Office spokesperson said there were already extensive restrictions in place to control the sale and possession of knives. A spokesperson for the Association of Chief Police Officers said: "ACPO supports any move to reduce the number of knife related incidents, however, it is important to consider the practicalities of enforcing such changes."
Posted by:Pappy

#18  Sharpened pencils, threat or menace?
Posted by: tu3031   2012-12-29 23:43  

#17  Death by Slap Choppy!

ban Vince Shlomi!
Posted by: Frank G   2012-12-29 13:40  

#16  If they come for my Zwillings, there'll be h*ll to pay.
Posted by: Mullah Richard   2012-12-29 13:02  

#15  Once again...check the date:

I was going to note that at the beginning of the article, but forgot. The point of posting it was to show up a particular British commenter who sniffed to the effect that 'gun murders don't happen' in Albion.

Posted by: Pappy   2012-12-29 12:56  

#14  Are you kidding me, I could turn a plastic bucket into a lethel weapon, nevermind someone just fashioning a shiv.

And I think there was talk about banning baseball bats. Something about the familiarity of a cricket bat, at less weight, and more portable.

Knives are illegal in prisons, yet people still manage to have blades. Its almost like bad people figure out ways to hurt people no matter what.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2012-12-29 12:37  

#13  Offensive weapons are defined as any weapon designed or adapted to cause injury, or intended by the person possessing them to do so.

IOW, if someone intended to cause injury with say, a spork, it could be considered an "Offensive Weapon". It sorta makes sense when you consider that any object that can't cause injury makes a pretty shitty weapon - offensive or otherwise.
Posted by: DepotGuy   2012-12-29 12:21  

#12  Once again...check the date:
Thursday, 26 May, 2005
Posted by: tu3031   2012-12-29 12:14  

#11  No problem P2 - simply lop off arms and legs at birth (and remove teeth later on). As a bonus the person will then also be totally dependent on the government - guaranteed vote!

What's not to like?
Posted by: CrazyFool   2012-12-29 11:12  

#10  ... there was a 57 per cent increase in deaths caused by punching and kicking.

Bringing a new chilling meaning to the irrational concept of 'to disarm' the public.
Posted by: P2kontheroad   2012-12-29 10:55  

#9  Shocking statistics released last night show a 14 per cent increase in murder and manslaughter in England and Wales between 1998 and 2007.

There was also a 28 per cent increase in deaths from bladed weapons. Those killed by shootings increased by the same figure.

Most shockingly, there was a 57 per cent increase in deaths caused by punching and kicking.
Posted by: Beavis   2012-12-29 10:34  

#8  This was a running joke for a while on the 'burg that next they would ban knives since they had banned guns. Looks like we were prophets. Next they'll ban cricket bats, bricks, pipes, wood and rocks.
Posted by: DarthVader   2012-12-29 10:19  

#7  Kitchen knives? More like kitchen knaves. Give me a break. I recall when Michael Skakel, a Kennedy, was convicted in the beating of a teenage girl to death with a golf club in Belle Haven, Connecticut, in 1975. Good thing Skakel didn't head to a school with a full set of golf clubs.
Posted by: JohnQC   2012-12-29 09:33  

#6  Anyone ever try to chop a large onion with a square ended knife?

Possible, yes. Easy, no. You use the point of the chefs knife to start the cut that runs from close to the root end. Make 4 or so cuts that way, slice across and then chop.

Much easier than any other knife.
Posted by: AlanC   2012-12-29 08:49  

#5  but there are no murders in the british utopia...they have strict gun laws (sniff)
Posted by: dan   2012-12-29 08:49  

#4  Don't know about the stats in the UK, but around 100,000 patients die every year from preventable causes in hospitals. That dwarfs killings and auto deaths, but somehow doesn't seem to make the front page or first five minutes of the propaganda broadcast. Doctor, heal thyself.
Posted by: P2Kontheroad   2012-12-29 08:46  

#3  Last argument I had in a kitchen was a very long time ago...
Posted by: Solomon Protector of the Texans5923   2012-12-29 07:49  

#2  Group punishment for all because the establishment cannot be bothered to solve the problem (by seperating the anti-social).
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2012-12-29 07:34  

#1  I went to the link to see the rest of the Onion. Is there an alternate fools-day in the UK maybe? This can't be real.
Posted by: Shipman   2012-12-29 04:06  

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