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California immigration bill designed as the "anti-Arizona"
2012-07-05
While America's debate over immigration has been dominated recently by crackdowns in states like Arizona and Alabama, California legislators are trying to turn that tide with a bill to protect illegal immigrants that they dub the "anti-Arizona."
Either this is total madness, or it's a honey-trap for illegals that we're going to chop off and give back to Mexico after it has achieved its purpose.
Last week, the top U.S. court upheld the most controversial aspect of Arizona's immigration statute: a requirement that police officers check the immigration status of people they stop, even for minor offenses such as jay-walking.

Enter California, a border state that is home to the largest number of illegal immigrants, most of whom are Hispanic, and is considerably more liberal than its neighbor Arizona.
Is there anywhere less liberal?
A bill currently working its way through the California legislature would block local law enforcement from referring a detainee to immigration officials for deportation unless that person has been convicted of a violent or serious felony.
RACISTS!
"California cannot afford to become another Arizona," said California Assembly member Tom Ammiano, the bill's sponsor. One of the bill's sponsors, the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, calls the effort the "anti-Arizona."
California can't afford a lot of things, including more illegal aliens. But hey, sometimes it's best to just isolate an idiot who refuses to learn and let him figure out what he's doing wrong the hard way.
Critics have argued that Arizona's law could lead to illegal racial or ethnic profiling of Hispanics in Arizona. Hispanics are the largest U.S. minority group, representing 16 percent of the population.

Supporters of the Arizona law say it is needed because the federal government has failed to secure the border with Mexico.

The California bill, which has the support of over 100 immigrant rights groups, police chiefs and mayors, was drafted not only as a symbolic counter to legislation in neighboring Arizona, but also to push back against a federal program called Secure Communities that shares the same principles as Arizona's law, supporters say.

The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, or ICE, established the Secure Communities program in partnership with local law enforcement agencies and the FBI to deport unauthorized immigrants.
I call them illegal aliens because they have little to do with immigration and everything to do with being somewhere they shouldn't be.
Local authorities send fingerprints of those arrested to ICE, which says it prioritizes deporting individuals with criminal convictions. The program was credited as a factor in that agency's highest-ever number of deportations, nearly 400,000 in 2011.

"(Secure Communities) has burdened our local governments and put even victims and witnesses of crime at risk of deportation, making us all less safe," Ammiano said in a statement. "It has even mistakenly trapped U.S. citizens in our local jails for immigration purposes."

The federal program has been responsible for deporting over 72,000 Californians, according to Ammiano, with 70 percent of those deported from the state having either no criminal conviction, or conviction for a minor offense.
What about that "illegal alien" thingy hiding behind the curtain?
Critics have lambasted the program for placing victims of domestic violence in deportation proceedings and deterring immigrants from reporting crimes committed against them.
So?
But the California State Sheriff's Association, which opposes the bill, said that state and local authorities cannot opt out of the Secure Communities program, and that ICE focuses on only the most serious cases, such as convicted criminals and repeat offenders.
I wonder what Mexico's stance is on illegals in Mexico.
The bill, already passed by the state Assembly in a 47-26 vote, now awaits a decision by the state Senate. That vote could come as early as this Thursday, but may be delayed until after legislators take a one-month summer recess beginning next week.
That should give pols time to figure out if Mexico is pleased with the new law as written.
Posted by:gorb

#17  If it's all about the votes then why did guys like John McCain and George Bush do nothing about it?

Because they were classical liberals in the line of Truman-Kennedy, not conservatives at all. Just as the Socialist Left captured the Donk Party, the Liberals captured the Trunk Party. It stop being about the Constitution and about being 'loved*', particularly in the MSM [which has been and remains an arm of the other party]. *see Big Tent[tm].
Posted by: Procopius2k   2012-07-05 17:03  

#16  Cause their spineless.
Posted by: Silentbrick - Schlumberger Squishy Mud Division   2012-07-05 15:38  

#15  If it's all about the votes then why did guys like John McCain and George Bush do nothing about it? Remember, I've said this before too, California used to be a red state. Remember Richard Nixon? Ronald Reagan? Does anybody remember that far back? Why did the Republicans let the Democrats have the state with more electoral college votes than any other state? Why did they let it go without a fight? Why???
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2012-07-05 14:56  

#14  Undocumented Democrats

Gulf Bravo gets it in one! It is all about votes.
Posted by: SteveS   2012-07-05 14:35  

#13  OK. So much for blaming Californians. Let's talk about who is really "spreading the taint". Here's a little tidbit from that Wikipedia article about Tom Ammiano that I cited earlier:

Ammiano was born and grew up in Montclair, New Jersey. He attended Seton Hall University in 1963 and received a bachelor's degree in communication. He was an Easter Seals Camp counselor in the summers of 1962-3, later attending San Francisco State University in 1965 where he received a master's degree in special education. He taught English to children in South Vietnam as part of a Quaker program, but left shortly after the Tet Offensive in 1968.

Get it? The guy is from New Jersey. Didn't move here until the mid-1960's along with a couple of million of his friends from New Jersey, New York, Michigan and, yes, even Texas. Even your precious Colorado. So who is "spreading the taint"? Dunno about the rest of you but I'm thinking New Jersey. Californians are the victims.

But, as I said earlier, I'm thinking George W. Bush and Bill Clinton too. Federal problem, folks. This is a federal problem. This is a federal failure as in misfeasance on the part of people that you elected. Stop being so smug and wake the fuck up. I've said it before but you don't seem to get it. If it can happen here it can happen to you.

Question: What will Mitt Romney do about it? What is more important to you: Getting rid of Obamacare or preserving the territorial integrity of the United States of America, California included?
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2012-07-05 14:22  

#12  If you somehow believe demographics do NOT matter. Spend some time in Atlanta.
Posted by: Besoeker   2012-07-05 14:09  

#11  Are they going to spread the taint to other states?

Going to? Check out Las Vegas NOW. Or most of Colorado. Or Portland/Seattle etc.
Posted by: Glenmore   2012-07-05 13:59  

#10  Are they going to spread the taint to other states?

Posted by: Glenmore   2012-07-05 13:58  

#9  Thought "derechos" translates into damaging windstorms. So union jobs at union wages are damaging (windstorms)?

If California passes the anti-Arizona immigration bill, they are going to have to live with it. Good luck to em. Look for California to look like Detroit in a few years. What happens when Californians try to escape this nightmare? Are they going to spread the taint to other states?
Posted by: JohnQC   2012-07-05 12:50  

#8  I'm afraid it's too late for my home state. We've passed the point of no return. The Mexicans here still tolerate us white folks, for the most part, for the time being. Maybe that's because we still pay our taxes. Oh, and we tip the waiters and busboys.

Racist? No, not really. I just thought California was supposed to be part of the United States and that the United States would defend its territorial integrity.

I blame Bush. No, I really do. He did nothing about it. But it wasn't just him. Clinton's the one who really let the invasion get going. Spit. And don't let anybody fool you. It is an invasion. Just because they come with women and children instead of tanks and war planes doesn't mean it's not an invasion. So is the United States willing to cede California to Mexico? Looks like it.

Wikipedia has a pretty good writeup on Tom Ammiano, D-San Francisco, of course. Read it if you have the stomach for it.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2012-07-05 12:38  

#7  
Posted by: junkiron   2012-07-05 12:24  

#6  Illegal Aliens Undocumented Democrats
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC   2012-07-05 12:00  

#5  Mexican Constitution -

Article 33. Foreigners are those who do not possess the qualifications set forth in Article 30. They are entitled to the guarantees granted by Chapter I, Title I, of the present Constitution; but the Federal Executive shall have the exclusive power to compel any foreigner whose remaining he may deem inexpedient to abandon the national territory immediately and without the necessity of previous legal action.

Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country.


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Posted by: Procopius2k   2012-07-05 08:57  

#4  Illegals are an untapped resource! Think about it, an illegal is caught, verified and saving who knows how many lives as an involuntary organ donor in less than 24 hours. Under such laws, we could encourage them to come!


/sarc

Though the mere announcement of this would cause massive voluntary deportation:p
Posted by: Silentbrick - Schlumberger Squishy Mud Division   2012-07-05 08:54  

#3  I wonder what Mexico's stance is on illegals in Mexico
I believe they are deported immediately.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia   2012-07-05 08:06  

#2  One of the 'problems' with the Federal law is that persons identified, by local law enforcement officials, as illegal immigrants are to be placed in custody until federal officials are notified.

California doesn't have space to keep people in custody.

Posted by: lord garth   2012-07-05 07:53  

#1  Arizona is quite happy to be the "anti-California".
Posted by: Spot   2012-07-05 07:49  

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