You have commented 339 times on Rantburg.

Your Name
Your e-mail (optional)
Website (optional)
My Original Nic        Pic-a-Nic        Sorry. Comments have been closed on this article.
Bold Italic Underline Strike Bullet Blockquote Small Big Link Squish Foto Photo
Home Front: WoT
FBI Busts CIA-NYPD Antiterrorism Operation Near Rutgers
2011-08-24
Posted by:Anonymoose

#14  I'm afraid that the devil is due to turn around soon if you know what I mean.
Posted by: AlanC   2011-08-24 20:54  

#13  AP and CAIR prolly don't "CAIR" for it, so I think it's prolly a good idea.
Posted by: Bobby   2011-08-24 19:44  

#12  [PENN STATE here].

And not just the CIA either.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2011-08-24 19:17  

#11  Nothing will come of this, since the media's pet DemoncRat is in the White House.

If a Republican were President, however....
Posted by: Barbara   2011-08-24 18:44  

#10  WHAT: CAIR-NY/NJ News Conference to Call for DOJ Probe of NYPD-CIA Spy Program
WHEN: Wednesday, August 24, 2 p.m.
WHERE: 475 Riverside Drive, Suite 244, New York, NY
CONTACT: CAIR-NY Civil Rights Manager Cyrus McGoldrick, 203-206-6883, 212-870-2002, E-Mail: cmcgoldrick@cair.com; CAIR-NJ Executive Director James Yee, 908-938-5990; E-Mail: jyee@cair.com; CAIR Staff Attorney Gadeir Abbas, 720-251-0425, E-Mail: gabbas@cair.com

Following a months-long investigation, The Associated Press (AP) revealed that the NYPD is using covert surveillance techniques "that would run afoul of civil liberties rules if practiced by the federal government" and "does so with unprecedented help from the CIA in a partnership that has blurred the bright line between foreign and domestic spying."
Posted by: Sherry   2011-08-24 16:56  

#9  AlanC, as I read the article, the CIA trained some NYPD officers in data collection skills, and a certain Mr. Cohen spent some time as a consultant. I'm sure there was also some sharing of suspicious names... As we would have liked to see them sharing the name of Al Awlaki, dear friend of Major Hassan, MD and the Pantibomber.
Posted by: trailing wife   2011-08-24 15:30  

#8  TW I take your point but this is not applicable here. The CIA is spying on civilians, apparently, in colusion with the NYPD.

This is not a case of sharing foreign intel, which is their purview, with the FBI; or even a case of the FBI sharing domestic intel with the CIA. I don't recall the NYPD being part of the Federal Gov't. with all the congressional oversight that implies.

This sounds like a rogue police state operation that breaks all the rules.
Posted by: AlanC   2011-08-24 15:10  

#7  I'm a little more concerned about the NYPD setting up a spyshop outside of the city like that, and in general acting like Wool's Union Defence Committee hiring privateers to scour the Chesapeake in the spring of 1861. It rather sounds like they've set themselves up as a rival to the FBI.
Posted by: Mitch H.   2011-08-24 14:47  

#6  Given that 9/11 happened because of the wall built between the CIA and domestic intelligence agencies so high they could't even tell each other that there were concerns, I'm not sure I have a problem with this, if the CIA was only advising and informing as opposed to doing the spying themselves.
Posted by: trailing wife   2011-08-24 13:47  

#5  Isn't there something about the CIA NOT engaging in domestic intelligence?

This is the kind of stuff that makes talk of big-brother much more cogent. There's much to much of this s*** going on these days with the TSA, DHS, ATF, etc.
Posted by: AlanC   2011-08-24 12:46  

#4  The NYPD's 2011 budget, at $4.5b is 2/3 the entire Pakistani military budget. That kind of money pays for a lot of personnel.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2011-08-24 12:13  

#3  The big question I have is who is paying for it? NYC or CIA? 11 foreign cops? Informants? It sounds like a 20 million a year or more operation.
Posted by: Penguin   2011-08-24 10:47  

#2  well, thank God the AP has conducted a month-long investigation and published their findings.
Posted by: Frank G   2011-08-24 10:44  

#1  Sounds like a complete charlie foxtrot.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2011-08-24 10:16  

00:00