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| These riots were about race. Why ignore the fact? |
| 2011-08-10 |
| h/t Instapundit What colour is Mark Duggan? Mark Duggan is the man who was shot dead by the police on Thursday in Tottenham. The Tottenham riots last night were sparked when people protested his death. This morning, I first heard of the riots on the radio, then on the television. I read articles on the internet. But oddly, no one would say what colour Mark Duggan was. No one would say the unsayable, that the rioters were, I suspect on the whole, black. Then, finally, Toby Young's Telegraph blog post on the riots was published. Is Toby Young the only journalist out there who will dare say that these riots are about race? Everywhere I read that the protest was understandable because "people are very angry". I'd like to know what they're angry about. Mark Duggan is dead. He was shot by the police in a shootout. Duggan was in a minicab and shots were fired from both the cab and the police elsewhere. A police officer was hurt in the incident and a bullet was found lodged in a police radio. At school I remember watching a presentation given to the kids by Trident, the Metropolitan Police Service unit set up to investigate and inform communities of gun crime in London's black community. I didn't know what Trident was then, and it struck me that all of the photos of people shot (the idea was to scare the kids) were black. So at the end, I approached one of the policemen and asked him what percentage of those involved in gun crime were black. I kid you not, but my question made this thirty-something white man who was, after all, trained to deal with the black community and its issues, turn pink. He explained that about 80 per cent of gun crime took place in the black community. I smiled uncomfortably. But no, he said, it was worse than that. Then he told me that 80 per cent was black on black gun crime, and that of the remaining 20 per cent about 75 per cent involved at least one black person: black shooting white, or white shooting black. The author has been teaching in inner London for over a decade and plans to set up a Free School in south London to help to serve underprivileged children. Not exactly an Archie Bunker type (like me). |
| Posted by:gr(o)mgoru |
| #8 Tottenham did start on Saturday as a race riot but by Monday night it was only about 'yoof' smashing the place up and stealing anything that had any desirability or value. The reason it morphed was the fact that police can't even effectively riot control because of a. not enough money to employ enough on duty officers b. pathetic politically correct policing making the police ineffective. Also the underlying reason that mostly all of the 'yoof' give when asked why they rioted and destroyed everything is "there are no jobs or prospects for us". Look at the areas that kicked off and look at the unemployment rates. Take a good look at the 16-25's unemployment rates in those areas. They ARE the highest rates in the country. The riots were a factor of a few reasons coming together at once. However this mindless behaviour will only push shop prices up and insurance costs up. It shut down places of employment for HUNDREDS of good honest people and delivered giant additional bills to the owners of many small businesses, many of which will now struggle and some even close, as a direct result of this behaviour of TOTAL IDIOTS. Young and unemployed, you may have had a good argument and an ear of sympathy before this week started but today, I can guarantee this; there are even less employers willing to ‘give young people a break’. There will be even less money for ‘yoof support’ schemes. There will be overcrowding in prisons in the near coming months. You are all a bunch of fucking idiots! |
| Posted by: Kojack 2011-08-10 18:47 |
| #7 The bulk of crimes are committed by young males. At some point the UK needs to find something for those young males to do, such as if you're on the dole more than a year (or whatever) you join the military (or similar service like cleaning toilets in schools and prisons or something) for a year or two. |
| Posted by: rjschwarz 2011-08-10 18:31 |
| #6 Thanks for the report from the ground, MacNails. Y'all stay safe. |
| Posted by: Barbara 2011-08-10 13:21 |
| #5 Ello folks , back in Blightey for a few weeks visiting relatives in Nottingham . Not the best time to be back I must confess . First night after 26 hour travel was spent with friends guarding property . Luckily no trouble flared in our neighourhood , I expect because these 'gangs' want easy targets . A mixed bunch we were , black , white , asian , christian , muslim , sikh (unfortunatley no buddists !) The folk causing the trouble at our end are a bunch of opportunistic low life wanna be gangbangers , again a mixed bag of ethnicity - with one common denominator - gutlessness . When confronted , these halfwits crumble like the spineless dogs they are . Canning Circus police station being firebombed Timeline of events from last night Ill post any juicy titbits as and when appropriate Cheers :) |
| Posted by: MacNails 2011-08-10 12:58 |
| #4 Maybe at first. But from the pictures I've seen, it looked like an equal opportunity lootfest, especially in the cities outside London. Once the scumbags realized the cops wouldn't, or couldn't, do anything, they all crawled out from under their rocks. |
| Posted by: tu3031 2011-08-10 12:10 |
| #3 ...actually they're all zombies. The movies have confused everyone that those life/brain suckers somehow look visually different from normal homo sapiens. Ah, if it was only that easy. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2011-08-10 11:59 |
| #2 Urban violent crime is mostly white! Does't anyone watch the home burglary alarm commericals or cop shows on Teevee? |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2011-08-10 11:23 |
| #1 I would not say "race", so much as "races". Tottenham is actually recognized as the most multi-cultural, multi-ethnic place in all of Europe. And while granted, perhaps the majority of its residents are Caribbean blacks, there are noticeable enclaves, which have been mentioned, of Turks, who fight the blacks that attack their turf; as well as Sikhs, who fight the blacks that attack their turf. So while it is indeed about race, the underlying situation seems to be "blacks against everyone else". But even this is not entirely true, because if you look at pictures from the riot, a lot of the rioters are whites. Lots of dynamics in these riots. I gather the EDL has announced that they are going to get involved, because "The police are incapable, and the government is unwilling." |
| Posted by: Anonymoose 2011-08-10 10:07 |