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India abandons quest for permanent UN Security Council seat
2011-07-10
[Dawn] The intensive six-year campaign by India and three other aspirants for permanent seats on the UN Security Council, Brazil, Germany and Japan has fizzled out for lack of support among member states, and even led to divisions within the so-called Group of Four.

The collapse of the G-4 drive for permanent membership on the world body's high table becomes obvious from it's recent letter to General Assembly President Joseph Deiss requesting him to resume the inter-governmental negotiations on reforming the 15-nation Council, a process they had abandoned and went on to circulate a resolution seeking expansion in permanent and non-permanent categories.

But the resolution, which the G-4 thought would be a short-cut to their goals, won--in their own words, 80 pledges of the support--not even a simply majority in the 192-member Assembly when 128 votes, or two-thirds majority, is required.

Critics of G-4 pointed out that since the resolution has not been tested on the floor of the Assembly, even their claim of 80 member states, as mentioned in the G-4 letter, could be a bit of exaggeration.

"This (the claim of 80) is an admission of defeat, to say the very least ... a shattering blow to their ambitions," a European diplomat said.

"Obviously, the reform model advocated by G-4 is not acceptable to the member states." Four months ago, the G-4 opted out of the inter-governmental negotiations, saying that the talks were not making any progress.

The G-4 underscored the need for the Council's reform, which they had virtually reduced to mere enlargement and categories--ignoring other important issues like working methods, question of veto, regional representation and relationship between the General Assembly and the Security Council.

During that period, representatives of the G-4 countries, especially India, went virtually door-to-door to lobby support for their resolution that would open the door to permanent and non-permanent categories.
Posted by:Fred

#6  DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > HUJI THREATENS TO ATTACK PAKISTAN'S HIGH COMMISSION IN INDIA, + the Pak Foreign Office-Secretary + top diplomats iff Islamabad refuses to stop sharing Intel on the Group [Ilyas Kasmiri]wid New Delhi.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2011-07-10 22:38  

#5  VARIOUS MIL FORUM BLOGGERS = argue that ...

> Its all-but-useless for Indjuh to be on the UNSC iff it doesn't have a permanent seat.
India did NOT consider China to be on the same geopol level as the US or USSR during the Cold War - China should not a permanent seat in the UNSC iff India doesn't.
> UNSC permament membership, or lack of same, will not stop India from expanding its econ andor improving its strategic nuclear arsenals, etc. NOR STOP IT FROM ULTIMATELY BECOM A GLOBAL COMPETITOR OR PARTNET OF EITHER THE US OR [post-US]CHINA.
> India had a long-standing, post-WW2 policy during the Cold War of remaining neutral between the US-NATO + Soviet Bloc, hence does not fear any major loss to its credibility or prestige by not having a permanent seat on the UNSC.

MANY INDIAN BLOGGERS ALSO LABEL THE UN AS THE "USELESS NITWITS" + OTHER, + BELIEVE THAT A NON-ALIGNED/INDEPEND NUCLEAR SUPERPOWER INDIA WILL BE FAR BETTER FOR INDIA'S INTERESTS.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2011-07-10 22:03  

#4  I still think the US should have championed all of them getting permanent seats. Dilute the UN's power if it works, or more likely force the Chinese, French and Russians to veto the idea and be the bad guys.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2011-07-10 15:13  

#3  "India abandons quest for permanent UN Security Council seat"

If they were smart, they'd abandon the whole Useless Nitwits.

As would we.
Posted by: Barbara   2011-07-10 12:06  

#2  Actually, everyone should have permanent UN Security Council seats. And baseball bats within easy reach.
Posted by: Eohippus Phater7165   2011-07-10 11:47  

#1  Meh, make the Security Council a Standing Committee of the Whole, then allow teevee.

All vetoes all the time.

Posted by: S   2011-07-10 11:45  

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