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Moderator note: discourse, civil and otherwise
2011-05-26
Yesterday we had an incident where, in a post about the ongoing controversy of the Texas law that would ban TSA 'groping', a commenter posted the addresses of certain Texas public officials, followed by a recommendation that others forward the names and addresses of these public officials to sex offender lists.

Needless to say, we don't do that here.

I removed the comments, troll-labeled that commenter, and made it clear that Rantburg does not and will not be a party to the harassment of public officials.

In the pantheon of public officials, there are some that one might not like or respect. Think of them as you wish, but understand that Rantburg will never -- never -- engage in activities that would be considered by any reasonable person to be harassment. It's not appropriate. It's ethically and morally wrong. It would give our blog an unsavory reputation.

We're not going to go in that direction. Not now, not ever. The ends do not justify the means.

In response to my moderator note last night, at least one other commenter decided to be insulting to a co-moderator, Badanov. You can read for yourself if you like, but I shall note for the record, in case one fell off the turnip truck this morning and doesn't understand how blogs work, that it is a really bad idea to insult blog moderators. That commenter shall learn.

Discourse is great. Sometimes it gets heated here, and we understand that. But harassment of anyone, and/or outright rudeness to other commenters, moderators and the blog owner, simply won't be tolerated.

Let's keep it civil.
Posted by:Steve White

#14  Yeah, insulting moderators isn't the best course of action. Leads to permabans.

Or SEALS showing up in your living room and shooting you in the face. Rumor has it that bin Laden was making himself a nuisance on a furry website (if you don't know what that is, you don't want to know!) and certain high-up individuals in the current administration decided to pull the trigger on him. So to speak.
Posted by: SteveS   2011-05-26 21:26  

#13  And another thing:

And who TRIED to post the first meaning full response here that he got from Nidal's attorney about the White House's stalling on the Court Marshall

Obama is the commander in chief. If he decides to delay the trial while he tries out the kinks at Augusta and Pebble Beach, he can pretty much do as he wants, including pardon Major Hassan. For better for worse, he is the boss.

Where's the news in that?
Posted by: badanov   2011-05-26 20:24  

#12  The person YOU called “f*cking stupid” (talk about your statement “Let’s keep it civil”) is a person who established a communication’s relationship with the attorney defending Texas Ft Hood shooter Nidal Hasan. And who TRIED to post the first meaning full response here that he got from Nidal’s attorney about the White House’s stalling on the Court Marshall. But, you did not post that information so it was sent to another blogger who started an internet buzz with that information in the effort to get justice for the families of our murdered troops.

Moderators saw the inforamtion, discussed it and determined that if the infromation was true, it was unethical for a member of anyone in the court to be leaking information , especially the press during a trial. That was those of us who thought the information was genuine.

I did not think it was.

Inasmuch as it turned out to be genuine, it didn't take anything anyway from the point that anyone within that court should be leaking information to the press. It turned out the decision to bypass the information was the correct one.

As I recall Pamela Geller was the person who picked up on it, but for all the "buzz", as you called it, it turned out to be a lot of agenda building, as we originally suspected. Your "buzz" dissipated rather quickly, as I recall.

Didn't it?

I do agree that Mrs. Geller was absolutely the one who should have gotten to information and run with it. She'll do anything for a few additional page views.

Before you jump on anything I have written so far, let me say I think that murdering sunuvabitch Major Hassan should get a fair trial, and should be put to death.

That said, I think those whole episode is a matter of agenda building, just like the Major Hassan thing. The only thing I was trying to do is to let you know you can't get a buncha people in a forum to do your dirty work for you.

You should be prepared to do it yourself, so you can enjoy tyhe consequences later on, say in five to ten.
Posted by: badanov   2011-05-26 20:06  

#11  Civil discourse? Here? You have to be kidding?

No more slanging, bully ragging or name calling?

What about insults and veiled allusions to manliness?

All kidding aside, I agree with this. We may be a bunch of smart alecks but we can be adults (wow what a concept mature behavior) and discuss the issues without dropping down to liberal smears and democratic name calling when the facts defeat us.
Posted by: Bill Clinton   2011-05-26 19:49  

#10  You prolly won't get to read this before you are banned, but I wanted to tell you anyway.

I posted links to those two pages because I thought your time would be better served giving them an earful and telling them to perform an act of dubious legality, than it would be at Rantburg trying to tell us.

That is why I fail to understand your anger at Rantburg. You went outside our rules.

So, nut up and take your lumps like a man.
Posted by: badanov   2011-05-26 19:16  

#9  
In case it is of interest, it wasn't Steve White who trolled wr - it was me. Or rather, wr chose to troll and I noted that fact.
Posted by: lotp   2011-05-26 18:53  

#8  Badanov, last night followed up with a link to one of the top law enforcement offices in the state of Texas, the Department of Public Safety the DPS.  The DPS are the top Law Enforcement Officers (State Troopers)  for the State of Texas.  The Texas Rangers get their people from the pool of DPS officers (Texas Law Enforcement Officers).  So hey, its OK for Badanov to tell everyone to “harass” law enforcement officials?  Now you see why I said “From the Heart of Texas, You’re just too fucking stupid.”  Just like you said to the above Texan for saying to tell the Federal ATTORNEY what you think.

Now go have your little tempest in a teapot for the rest of the day here. :-) Glad I made your day again.
Posted by: wr   2011-05-26 18:41  

#7  Steve, I am NOT going to debate you.  It is a total waste of time.  It will get NOTHING done.  You and I both agree on that.  I will explain why in a moment. The person YOU removed the comment from and replaced with “Sir, I am going to have to ask you to leave the internet.  You’re too fucking stupid”  is a friend of mine here in Texas.  The person YOU called “f*cking stupid” (talk about  your statement  “Let’s keep it civil”) is a person who established a communication’s relationship with the attorney defending Texas Ft Hood shooter Nidal Hasan.  And who TRIED to post the first meaning full response here that he got from Nidal’s attorney about the White House’s stalling on the Court Marshall.  But, you did not post that information so it was sent to another blogger who started an internet buzz with that information in the effort to get justice for the families of our murdered troops.

So this morning I did what my friend recommended.  I called the attorney’s office.  I talked to the receptionist, who left my comments for the attorney’s assistant and the attorney himself.  Did they consider my comments as harassment?  No, they actually thanked me for the public feedback.  Was my message “As parents we teach our kids to not allow strangers to touch you and you are now defending people who are trying teach our kids that going through a gauntlet of total strangers who want to touch them in places that is wrong is something that gets people on the National Sex Offenders List.  Is that you?”  Just like a Tea Party Activist said in that comment thread, action and communication is in order.  Just like the Texan that established real links of communication in the Fort Hood massacre who YOU said was ‘fucking stupid”.  THAT is why Texas is Red while Chicago and California is blue.  You people sit on your blog, link to all that is wrong, make your comments, do and say nothing.  Rinse and repeat.  Unless someone says do/say something and then you do your little tempest in a teapot at while all around you in your blue state, left wing Socialist liberals are communicating and acting where it matters and rolling over you like a steam roller.
Posted by: wr   2011-05-26 18:32  

#6  Thank you for the heads up, Besoeker. Damn, indeed. They gave their lives to keep the battle far from home -- may that thought bring some comfort to those who loved them, as they are in the thoughts and prayers of the many here and elsewhere who are grateful for their courage and honor.
Posted by: trailing wife   2011-05-26 18:31  

#5  Besoeker -- I deleted the duplicates. I saw the news and understand your frustration. Damn. My prayers for the families.
Posted by: Steve White   2011-05-26 15:01  

#4  Dr. Steve or any available MOD. Please delete all of my above comments and forgive my frustration. Thanks, Besoeker.
Posted by: Besoeker   2011-05-26 13:00  

#3  Yeah, insulting moderators isn't the best course of action. Leads to permabans.
Posted by: DarthVader   2011-05-26 12:47  

#2  I've got a better idea. How about doing something meaningful and taking time out to say a prayer for the families that lost 4 young soldiers (possibly more if they die from injuries) today in Afghanistan. It will hit the news later today. Just a thought.
Posted by: Besoeker   2011-05-26 12:46  

#1  
I'm not Fred but I'm also not amused by adolescent neener neeners.
Posted by: 746   2011-05-26 12:41  

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