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Pressure mounts on Obama to enforce no-fly zone over Libya
2011-03-12
(Xinhua) -- Pressure is mounting on U.S. President Barack B.O. Obama to enforce a no-fly zone over the violence-torn Libya. Calls have come from a number of directions: 2008 presidential candidate Sen. John Maverick McCain
... the Senator-for-Life from Arizona, former presidential candidate and even more former foot soldier in the Reagan Revolution...
continued his push for U.S. intervention. From within Obama's own party, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman John I was in Vietnam, you know Kerry
... the Senate's current foreign policy expert, filling the empty wingtips of Joe Biden...
on Sunday called for the bombing of Libya's airstrips. And the Organization of the Islamic Conference
OIC is an international organisation with a permanent delegation to the UN, with 57 member states. It represents all countries (as opposed to only Arab countries making up the Aräb League) with substantial Moslem populations except those member countries block from joining. These include India, which has more Mohammedans than does Pakistain, whose membership is vetoed by Pakistain...
called on the United Nations, aka the Oyster Bay Chowder and Marching Society Tuesday to enforce a no-fly zone over the restive North African country, according to the group's official website.

In response, the White House has reiterated several times that the option remains on the table, although the administration has emphasized that it is not ready to jump headlong into any military commitments without careful consideration.

The administration has also vowed that it would not act alone -- Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
... sometimes described as the Smartest Woman in the World and at other times as Mrs. Bill, never as Another Daniel Webster ...
on Tuesday told Sky News that any U.S. military involvement would have to be multilateral.

Obama on Wednesday held a principals committee meeting in which the issue was discussed, but White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said that no decision would be made during the talks.

"This is not a decision meeting," Carney said Wednesday at a press briefing. "It's obviously one in which the events that are evolving in Libya will be reviewed and discussed and the variety of options that we have already taken and are implementing will be discussed, as well as the options that remain on the table."

George Friedman, CEO of global intelligence company Stratfor, noted in a recent article that enforcing a no-fly zone would present a number of hurdles, including problems locating the air defenses that would have to be bombarded before the zone could be established.

"Collecting intelligence on air defenses is not as easy as it might appear," he said. "The opposition and thieves have managed to capture heavy weapons and armored vehicles, meaning that air defense assets are on the move and under uncertain control."

U.S. intervention could also re-enforce the already negative opinions that many in the region harbor for the United States. Since his election, Obama has made an effort to reach out to the Arab world in a bid to heal wounds caused by the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Those would remain open, and even more U.S. military involvement could send the wrong message, some experts said.

At present, Obama is trying to strike a balance between two sides: On one side, neoconservatives and liberal hawks are calling for intervention because they say it will benefit rebels in the short term. On the other side, those against intervention harbor concerns that it might in the long run undermine the legitimacy of protesters, said Malou Innocent, a foreign policy analyst at the Cato Institute.
Posted by:Fred

#25  Whuuuuutt?
Posted by: Fi   2011-03-12 23:01  

#24  Oy! A small amount of seed on the desert floor.
Posted by: Herman Phusons1336   2011-03-12 22:56  

#23  Und tight.
Posted by: Herman Phusons1336   2011-03-12 22:49  

#22  With the tragedy in Japan I suspect the media focus will forget LIbya giving Obama a pass to continue foot-dragging.

I don't think the Arabs will, tho. He's on 'strike two'.
Posted by: Pappy   2011-03-12 18:07  

#21  ...well...technically, it was an Italian colony till the Brits finally swept them and the Afrika Korps out with the Yanks press from the back door of the French colonies from the West [which were attacked and occupied without provocation or real warning by FDR/US to gain that specific strategic positioning]. As the pie chart [scroll down] shows, Italy still get the biggest share of Libyan oil.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2011-03-12 16:17  

#20  With the tragedy in Japan I suspect the media focus will forget LIbya giving Obama a pass to continue foot-dragging. Probably a good thing that. Even if we helped, and it saved lives and overturned Khaddafy I suspect his replacement is gonna be unpleasant and ungrateful.

It's a French colony, in the European backyard, that sells oil to Europe. If they won't handle it nobody else should feel any moral urgency.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2011-03-12 15:54  

#19  emotional onanism LOL

that's why you switch hands - to keep it "fresh" :-)
Posted by: Frank G   2011-03-12 15:53  

#18  On March 4, a few hundred protesters came out of the Murad Agha mosque in Tajura, on the outskirts of Tripoli, after Friday prayers chanting anti-regime slogans, only to be dispersed by security forces with rubber bullets and tear gas.

Notice how these rebels get a bug up their butts right after getting a sermon from the local mullah. The idea that these Islamists would be preferable to Gaddafi is a pipe dream, nothing more.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2011-03-12 15:52  

#17  I'm with Pappy and OS. About 10 days late. The rebels have lost the momentum.
Look for Qadaffi to really put the pedal to the metal now. It'll probably be over before this thing even gets cranked up.
Posted by: tu3031   2011-03-12 15:29  

#16  Call me when we get a drop of Iraqi oil or Balkans gratitude

"Iraq" happened because it was a valid target and is next door to Iran.

"Balkans" happened because the Clinton administration and the Left said "because we can".

OS is right: the window of opportunity was a week ago. Anything that happens now is merely emotional onanism.
Posted by: Pappy   2011-03-12 14:05  

#15  Before we risk our blood and treasure wandering into the middle of yet another domestic brawl in some third world shit hole, what's in it for us?

Call me when we get a drop of Iraqi oil or Balkans gratitude
Posted by: regular joe   2011-03-12 13:34  

#14  --No-Fly Zone
Posted by: Tom--Pa   2011-03-12 13:30  

#13  Whahahahaha
Posted by: Besoeker   2011-03-12 13:09  

#12  Wisconsin brought us G. Mabovitch. ... I wish we had her here today.

Neh---she screwed on Yom Kippur. Anyways, for you (USA) Dr Grom prescribes Old Hickory.

Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2011-03-12 13:07  

#11  At this point a better option is a no Gadaffy zone. We know where his hq is in Tripoli. Just bomb it to pieces. All his money would become unaccessable to him. Let him live among his people for a while as a pauper. Problem solved.
Posted by: rammer   2011-03-12 10:44  

#10  Its too damned late. A No-fly last week, along with arming the rebels and recognizing them as the legit government would have had a huge impact about 10 days ago. But that would require decisive leadership, something missing by that idiot Obama. Now we are stuck with the consequences of inaction: events have likely bypassed our ability to have an effect short of full intervention.
Posted by: OldSpook   2011-03-12 10:39  

#9  Have things changed that much from the days of Lawrence of Arabia and before so far as the warring of various tribes in the mideast? Seems like there is always some internecine fight going on.
Posted by: JohnQC   2011-03-12 10:20  

#8  P2k:

For some reason they began to taper off at the $4.50 per gallon mark.
Posted by: Besoeker   2011-03-12 10:01  

#7  Where are the usual suspects marching with their chant of "No Blood for Oil"*?

* could it be they weren't against the war as much as for the other side? Come on, same maniacal leader without concern of butchering his own people, what's different? Oh, yeah, their man is in power. It was all just about power wasn't it?
Posted by: Procopius2k   2011-03-12 09:56  

#6  Wisconsin brought us G. Mabovitch g(r)om. She did a pretty good job as a stateman. I wish we had her here today.
Posted by: Besoeker   2011-03-12 08:37  

#5  Besoeker, I guess you're feeling down. Look at the good news. Wisconsin. Increasing civic disorder throughout Dar. EUers snarling at each other.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2011-03-12 06:58  

#4  We no longer manufacture or produce anything g(r)om. Sadly, conflict has become our focus, our raison d'être.
Posted by: Besoeker   2011-03-12 04:55  

#3  I hope you're wrong.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2011-03-12 04:46  

#2  gr(o)m:

As always, he says one thing, but actually intends to do quite another. His stated intentions belay a convenient cover for action. In the end he must be seen as a reluctant participant, forced to defend humanity at any cost. Unless I miss my guess, the US will be deeply involved in this matter very soon.
Posted by: Besoeker   2011-03-12 04:34  

#1  Never thought I'll find myself approving of Obama.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2011-03-12 03:24  

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