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| 'ICC may probe Israel's flotilla attack' |
| 2010-09-29 |
| [Iran Press TV] A UN expert has announced that the International Criminal Court (ICC) may probe Israel's brutal attack against a Gazoo-bound aid convoy. The Mavi Marmara ship was assaulted by Israeli navy commandos in international waters in May. The incident left nine Turkish muscle dead and several others injured. The ship's flag state is the Comoros Islands, which are members of the court, "which gives the ICC jurisdiction," AFP quoted Desmond de Silva, a member of a UN Human Rights Council's (UNHRC) probe into the attack, as saying on Tuesday. Last week, UNHRC, which ordered the investigation of the Israeli attack, said that there is clear evidence to back prosecution against Israel for killing and torturing when its troops stormed the aid ship. The probe also revealed that six of the nine deceased were "victims of summary executions." The UN-appointed experts also said Israel withheld photos and video footage belonging to several news hounds and other muscle onboard the ship. The Gazoo Freedom Flotilla was trying to deliver thousands of tons of humanitarian supplies to the 1.5 million impoverished people of Gazoo, who have been under Israel's siege since 2007. |
| Posted by:Fred |
| #7 Thanks for the précis, 'moose. Good grief. |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2010-09-29 22:18 |
| #6 They have a surprising amount of organization for being disorganized. They begin a gathering by broadcasting through the underground the *region* where they will be holding their event. This starts a slow, national migration in that direction. As it gets closer, they narrow down where it will be held, including decoy locations. Then all at once they converge on a single site. This annoys the authorities, because it makes it very hard to stop. They subdivide into interest oriented camps, everything from families, to a drinking camp for alcoholics. Each group then stays in its own area. Walky Talkies are issued to volunteers, to act as pseudo police. If there is a violent crime, or someone goes crazy, they start yelling the equivalent of the carnival "Hey Rube!", and everyone converges on the bad guy for a "group hug". Immobilized, he might then be duct taped to a tree. After a few days, there is usually some effort by the authorities to turn out half a dozen police to bully the crowd, but it doesn't work, because there is no cooperation, and they are so outnumbered. Whenever a decision needs to be made, they hold a circle to discuss and debate it, which anyone may join. If a clear majority support it, then they are expected to do whatever it is, as cooperative individuals. But again, the critical point is that a patriarchal-hierarchical organization just cannot interface or deal with such a matriarchal organization. And yet, a matriarchal organization still works, which mystifies the patriarchal organization. It just does not compute. |
| Posted by: Anonymoose 2010-09-29 22:01 |
| #5 I googled it when he mentioned it, Barbara. They're a hippie subculture with a reputation for getting into rather bare-knuckled fights with the Forest Service over their anarchist tendencies to camp out in large numbers on National parkland without bothering with permits or that sort of thing. As far as I can tell, they're not overtly political, nor do they seem to be related to Jim Jones' "Rainbow Family" bullshit. From what I've seen, either there's a lot of them gathering in groups of 150-200, or the same group of about 150-200 keeps meeting on a regular basis year in, year out, like a motorcycle club with a hippie love-child affect. |
| Posted by: Mitch H. 2010-09-29 16:06 |
| #4 Who is this "Rainbow Family," 'moose, and where are they located? Sounds |
| Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2010-09-29 13:34 |
| #3 The obvious counter to this is "matriarchal organization". That is, when there is a military mission of this sort, create a "nebulous" chain of command organization where leadership is ad hoc committee oriented. That is, with no command structure or rank, anonymous operations, diffuse responsibility, and few if any records. It sounds impossible, but actually works, because patriarchal-hierarchical governments and organizations are incapable of interacting with a matriarchal organizations. Oddly enough, the best modern example of this is how the Rainbow Family operates. It has no leaders, no one in authority, and an ad hoc decision making process, solely to defeat the federal, State and local governments that try to stop it. There is no interface. No leaders to arrest, no executive committee, no offices to raid, no papers to seize. And importantly, it works. So much so that each time the RF throw a gathering, one of them volunteers to be a sacrifice to the government, knowing he could get six months in jail. He does this by volunteering to be the garbage truck driver. As such, he can be singled out by the police as an individual with responsibility, and arrested. But everybody else gets away. In a military operation, it would take a major psychological adjustment to create such an organization. Importantly, females seem to be much better at grasping the concept than males, so would probably be the guiding force. An ad hoc committee would decide to raid the ship, and those who came along would do so on their own, and likely use their own aircraft. In many ways, it would be like an Amerind warrior raiding party. Their mission would be very different, in that its purpose would be to disable the ship or sink it, and maybe destroy its cargo, and then leave. No captives and none of the legal recourse now used. After they are done, they again become nebulous and unidentifiable. Private citizens. |
| Posted by: Anonymoose 2010-09-29 11:54 |
| #2 A UN expert has announced .......We just need something to do that makes our jobs credible |
| Posted by: armyguy 2010-09-29 08:01 |
| #1 The real enemy speaks. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2010-09-29 05:34 |