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India-Pakistan
4 men awarded 25 year-term for burying three girls alive
2010-03-10
DERA MURAD JAMALI: An anti-terrorism court (ATC) in Dera Allah Yar on Tuesday sentenced four men to 25 years in prison for burying alive three young girls in Naseerabad in 2008. ATC Judge Muhammad Alam Mengal also fined the four accused, Allah Bakhsh, Muhammad Arif, Rehmatullah and Ghaus Bakhsh, Rs 100,000 each.

Janat, Farida and Izaat were tortured and buried alive on July 2008 in the Baba Kot area of Naseerabad district, after they had attempted to choose their matches without the consent of their families.
Posted by:Steve White

#12  thousands of years ago, when advanced people encountered more "primitive" people, were they concerned with the politically correct way to assimilate the less advanced group or did they simply exploit and eventually overcome and exterminate the less advanced group, just sayin'
Posted by: 746   2010-03-10 23:09  

#11  Assimilation is not an option. Tax exempt protected sacred grounds and casinos are not the fruits of assimilation.
Posted by: Besoeker   2010-03-10 21:31  

#10  OK here goes (I had to do it, sorry)
Prepare to be assimilated, resistance is futile.
Posted by: Mr. Bill   2010-03-10 20:53  

#9  "primitive culture cannot exist next door to a more advanced culture for more than a short time before it is assimilated or destroyed"

In this case, those who refuse to be assimilated need to be destroyed.

Just sayin'....
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2010-03-10 17:31  

#8  Good stuff there.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2010-03-10 16:46  

#7  Moose, you nailed it. Thanks.
Posted by: WolfDog   2010-03-10 10:46  

#6  Only one flaw moose, the surrender and appeasement of the civilization to the barbarian. That is the West's flaw.
Posted by: DarthVader   2010-03-10 10:44  

#5  Moose,
That was great commentary.
Very insightful and on point.
Thank you
Posted by: Big Grenter5060   2010-03-10 10:08  

#4  Anonymoose, was a good read .. Cheers
Posted by: Oscar   2010-03-10 08:30  

#3  Oscar: A rule of thumb in anthropology is that a primitive culture cannot exist next door to a more advanced culture for more than a short time before it is assimilated or destroyed.

In history, this rule become more encompassing, that barbarism cannot coexist with civilization. In such situations, barbarism is either absorbed or destroyed--with the only alternative the complete destruction of civilization.

This presents the great irony of Islam, because at its inception, *it* had the power of civilization, compared to the tribal barbarism that surrounded it.

Mohammed even integrated what was then the most advanced rural technologies into the religion, to modernize the Ummah; but he failed to incorporate the idea that it must continue to intellectually advance.

Several hundred years later, a Persian philosopher then formalized the idea of fundamentalism, that all knowledge was within the Koran and its commentaries, and so outside knowledge should be shunned. And there have been several other fundamentalist themes introduced since then, with the same idea.

But this leaves modern Muslims in a paradox. They still have the "righteous arrogance" of civilization, as superior to barbarism. But at the same time, they have become the new barbarians, surrounded by what is obviously a superior civilization.

Yet their choice remains the same. As the situation stands today, Islam and its ways are dying out. So the only choices left to it are either a complete and blatant hypocritical reformation, or to utterly destroy modern civilization.

It is far less the actions of civilization that is intolerable to them, but just its existence, which eats away at them. If you ask the typical Muslim on the street, he will choose civilization. So half their effort has to go into *forcing* Muslims to stay Muslim, under threat of severe abuse and murder.

Otherwise, they just defend the indefensible, such as arguing that wrapping women in burqas and denying them an education, while treating them like farm animals, is somehow *better* for women than treating them like intelligent and capable human beings.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2010-03-10 08:09  

#2  The same way mexican drug cartel sewed a man's face on to a football in January, penguin.. A lot of effort and stretching , but in the end its unrecognisable from its real form .

Truely sad, and why the rest of humanity has put up with Islam for so long is totally beyond my comprehension
Posted by: Oscar   2010-03-10 05:31  

#1  How do you put a human face on a culture such as this?
Posted by: penguin   2010-03-10 00:10  

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