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Home Front: Politix
DeMint says parliamentarian was in the Democrats' back pocket
2009-12-17
Senator Jim DeMint (R - S.C.) had no regrets with the GOP's strategy today, when Senator Tom Coburn (R - OK) asked for Senator Bernie Sanders (D - VT) seven hundred and sixty-seven page single payer health care amendment be read by the clerk. The reading of the amendment could have lasted until Saturday, but Senator Sanders put a stop to the reading of his massive amendment at almost three 'o clock this afternoon, but it seems as if an unprecedented parliamentary procedure may have been broken in the process.

When Mr. Sanders called to withdraw his amendment during the clerk's reading, Mr. Coburn objected, but the parliamentarian recognized Mr. Sanders nonetheless and ignored Mr. Coburn.

According to Senate procedures, "Under Rule 15, paragraph 1, and Senate precedents, an amendment shall be read by the clerk before it is up for consideration or before the same shall be debated unless a request to waive the reading is granted".

It continues, 'the reading of which may not be dispensed with, except by unanimous consent, and if the request is denied, the amendment must be read and further interruptions are not in order.'

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's (R - KY) office sent out a statement saying,:
"You may have heard that the majority cites an example in 1992 where the chair made a mistake and allowed something similar to happen. But one mistake does not a precedent make.

For example, there is precedent for a Senator being beaten with a cane here in the Senate. If mistakes were the rule, the caning of Senators would be in order. Fortunately for all of us, it is not."
Senator DeMint told the Washington Times about the GOP's motivation to start using this type of parliamentary strategy has more to do with no longer being able to work with the Democrats in good faith. The Senator from South Carolina also points out that the parliamentarian was "clearly bias." if not in the Democrats' "back pocket" in allowing the interruption of the amendment's reading.:
"The lines between the parties have gotten very clear over the last few months and its not just health care, climate change, the financial takeover, its card check. It's this very liberal agenda that has ordinary Americans engaged and angry. We see wide swings in the polls with not just Republicans but with Independents and Democrats, and so I think its really important for Republicans to have a lot of clarity in what we say. We don't want to be obstructionists on any policy they're willing to deal with fairly, but no one can say that this is a fair process, when they basically have a parliamentarian in their back pocket."

"The problem we have, I think if you look at the last couple of weeks, we were working in good faith and the strategy they were using was one of bait switch. While we were debating a decoy on the floor, while they were developing another one in secret, so to continue to play along with this as if it's a legitimate process makes no sense. So the strategy now has to be we make sure we slow things down enough that we can actually have a chance to find out what's in this final bill, and they're trying to push it up against Christmas, so they can pass it when nobody is paying attention, but what we have to do is push it past Christmas, so people know what's happening. It's a waste of time to work with people in good faith who don't even have the real bill on the floor."
Senators Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) and Robert Menendez (D -NJ) both accused the GOP for holding up defense appropriations and unemployment benefits by having the clerk read Mr. Sanders's amendment today. Mr. Menendez compared the GOP's tactics today to that of Ebenezer Scrooge.
Posted by:Fred

#14  hung...erm, maybe? but in need of ball retrieval surgery? And those dems balls seems to be losing their bounce.
Posted by: GirlThursday   2009-12-17 21:35  

#13  Democrats, they are thugs. The deserve to be hung hanged for treason.

For all you know, they might already be hung! ;-)
Posted by: Pancho Glugum9430   2009-12-17 21:13  

#12  Well said OldSpook.
Posted by: Besoeker   2009-12-17 21:12  

#11  I don't know about the thousand Eric Rudolphs, OS, but they will spawn a massive amount of civil disobedience the likes of which the country has never seen. (I'd be willing to skip coverage for the same reasons you mention, but I worry about my kids and who would care for them. I don't have an alternative caregiver that would be suitable right now. That would be the only reason I would continue it if this passes, and I hope heaven would forgive me for a while.)

Not only that, they don't get that this kind of coercive crap is something that immigrants to our shores came here to avoid. I'm not talking about the illegals picking lettuce or working in the slaughterhouses, I'm talking about ones with options who could go to lots of different places and get handsomely rewarded because of their skills.

Funny enough....some of them are....get this, doctors and nurses. Hmm. Ya think some of them might start going back home...or to somewhere else that would appreciate their skills? But I'm sure that will be addressed in a future "Just Try to Go Home When We Need Your Skills Here" bill, coming right up.
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie   2009-12-17 19:31  

#10  Right on, OldSpook. You are absolutely right.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2009-12-17 19:15  

#9  If they pass this thing with the abortion funding in it as-is, many will be compelled to choose between acquiescing to their coercion to pay for abortions and thus damning themselves, or risking possible jailing when they refuse to let the government take thier money which will be used to deliberately destroy defenseless innocent human lives by the millions.

The government of the United States will have made itself into an agency of unspeakable evil, and will be forcing people of conscience to submit at the point of a gun and a prison sentence, or else lose their liberty and risk death in order to maintain their faith.

In short, the government of the United States will have become an oppressor, an enemy to a large segment of its own populace, no less than the Soviet Union was (at least when it comes to conscientious objections).

Personally, I will not support uphold or defend the US Government's evil actions. My fear is they by staying true to my faith I will lose my liberty, risking imprisonment as a matter of conscience at the hands of these evil people. But imprisonment will not cost my my eternal soul as would the violence against my fellow citizens or my acquiescence to materially aiding a mortal sin: the systematic and widespread destruction of millions of defenseless innocent human lives for mere convenience, and unmistakably for profit and power by Planned Parenthood and the abortion industry.

Do you see what they are doing? DO you see them ramming this down our throats? Do you care?

You should. I love this country too much to advocate the violent overthrow, and will I NOT tolerate those who do so, unless the day comes where we tread even further down the path of Nazi Germany and the Communist regimes and restrict basic liberties. But there are those will will, unlike me, choose violent means, and take direct actions on those who push this agenda of evil.

God help us all - the idiots in Washington and their leftist cohorts are starting a civil war, a shooting war, with this action. They will spawn a thousand Eric Rudolphs.
Posted by: OldSpook   2009-12-17 17:08  

#8  This guy is a stark, raving lunatic.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2009-12-17 12:10  

#7  I think right now would be a good time for some massive tea parties in front of each and every senator's office. I don't have the time or the organizational skills to get it started but I'd certainly like to participate. I'm mad as hell.

Last night on ABC news they showed Bernie Sanders ranting about how the Republicans were be obstructionist. I embarrassed myself by shouting back at the TV "MAYBE THEY WANNA KNOW WHAT THE HELL IS IN THOSE 700 PAGES, @$$#*!&!!!" Well, maybe I shouldn't drink while I'm watching the news but it's a good question isn't it? I mean, what, exactly, is in those 700 pages? Do you really expect senators to vote on it without knowing?
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305   2009-12-17 11:58  

#6  Not sure Broadhead6, but I'm beginning to gain a new appreciation for how it happened the first time.
Posted by: Besoeker   2009-12-17 10:23  

#5  how long will these types of shenanigans go on until someone shoots on Ft Sumpter?
Posted by: Broadhead6   2009-12-17 09:44  

#4  If Coburn and DeMint have the courage we'll find out ...
Posted by: Steve White   2009-12-17 09:40  

#3  This won't work with all 2,074 pages of the health care bill. Any idea how long that will take to read?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2009-12-17 07:10  

#2  the caning of Senators would be in order.

I have a dream: government where authority is indissolubly linked with accountability
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2009-12-17 05:34  

#1  Democrats, they are thugs. The deserve to be hung for treason.
Posted by: OldSpook   2009-12-17 01:18  

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