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Home Front: Politix
Judge Halts Flu Vaccine Mandate For NY Health Workers
2009-10-17
Health care workers in New York will no longer be forced to get the H1N1 swine flu vaccine, CBS 2 has learned.

A state Supreme Court judge issued a restraining order Friday against the state from enforcing the controversial mandatory vaccination.

The order came as the Public Employees Federation sued to reverse a policy requiring vaccination against the seasonal and swine flu viruses, arguing that state Health Commissioner Richard Daines overstepped his authority.

Three parties -- the Public Employees Federaion, New York State United Teachers, and an attorney representing four Albany nurses -- challenged the order and for now the vaccination for nurses, doctors, aides, and non-medical staff members who might be in a patient's room will remain voluntary.

The health department had said the workers must be vaccinated by November 30 or face possible disciplinary action, including dismissal. PEF said it encourages members to get flu vaccinations, but opposes the emergency regulation requiring the vaccine as a condition of employment.

A judge granted a temporary restraining order Friday morning, PEF spokeswoman Debbie Miles said. A court hearing is scheduled for October 30.

New York was the first state in the country to initially mandate flu vaccinations for its health care workers, but many health care workers quickly protested against the ruling. In Hauppauge, workers outside a local clinic screamed "No forced shots!" when the mandate came down at the end of September.

"I don't even tend to the sick. I am in the nutrition field. They are telling me I must get the shot because I work in a health clinic setting," said Paula Small, a Women, Infants and Children health care worker.

Small said she would refuse to be vaccinate, worried the vaccine is untested and unproven, leaving her vulnerable. In 1976, there were some deaths associated with a swine flu vaccination.

Registered nurse Frank Mannino, 50, was also angry. He said the state regulation violates his personal freedom and civil rights.

"And now I will lose my job if I don't take the regular flu shot or the swine flu shot."

When asked if he's willing to lose his job, Mannino said, "Absolutely. I will not take it, will not be forced. This is still America."

The protest also shook Albany. Hundreds of demonstrators demanded freedom of choice. After all, as health care professionals, they argue they're already constantly washing their hands and aren't likely to transmit or contract the flu.

Around 500,000 health care workers would have been slated to receive the vaccine

"It's certainly their prerogative to voice their opinion," said Dr. Susan Donelan of Stony Brook University Hospital.

Donelan said most in the medical community see the benefits and safety of the shots and welcome them, and that hospitals must obey the law.

"Our hospital is committed to following the mandate to have our personnel vaccinated," she said.

The state said change was needed this year to save lives. Typically only about 45 percent of health care workers take advantage of voluntary flu vaccines.

More than 150 institutional outbreaks of seasonal and H1N1 flu are expected this year in hospitals, nursing homes and hospice centers.

There is also a strong resistance to the vaccine from the general public. A new Harvard University poll shows that only four in 10 adults intend to take the vaccine themselves, and only six in 10 plan to give it to their children.
Posted by:gorb

#6  Jumbo, please. I'm amazed, too, at how fast this vaccine got greenlighted. But if your theory was correct (hyping it all just so they could make big bucks), why wasn't there something similar for the avian flu, SARS, etc.? Those would have been golden opportunities if it was strictly just for big profits, yes?

And no, it's not just academic for me. I'm in a high risk group (Miracle #2 on the way in March, plus I'm asthmatic), and I've gotten all kinds of opinions on whether I should get it or not. I've gotten the regular flu shot, but I live somewhere that already has gotten hit by H1N1 and I don't know if I have already gotten exposed to it.

The last thing I really want to deal with right now is the possibility that some health care worker I could come into contact with could make me and other high-risk people ill because they couldn't/wouldn't take ALL possible precautions. I wish I could believe that every single one of them will wash their hands thoroughly, use hand sanitizer or not come to work if they are sick, but...I'm sure some of them won't.

They have the right to not get the shot. But I, as a patient, have the right not to get sick because of their choice to skip the shot. Call me selfish, but I think in this case, my rights (and that of my yet-to-be-born daughter) trump theirs.
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie   2009-10-17 22:31  

#5  For the good of the children.

And if there's a pandemic, can we blame you, you ignorant, anonymous ass?
Posted by: Pappy   2009-10-17 22:07  

#4  Think of the money in this! You could run an effective hype campaign at least four times a year. If you can hype the mild H1N1 into this type of frenzy, you can hype a new flu, every season.

FOR THE GOOD OF THE CHILDREN, every new flu is a massive money making machine if all nurses, teachers, and people who come in contact with the GP have to be vaccinated. And of course, every vaccine will always need to be rushed through the approval process. For the good of the children.
Posted by: Jumbo Slinerong5015   2009-10-17 18:48  

#3  H1N1 is primarily passed through tiny droplets in the air. Handwashing is useful but there's good evidence that it doesn't prevent the spread of this particular influenza, unlike the seasonal flu.
Posted by: lotp   2009-10-17 14:14  

#2  An average, ordinary citizen may, if he/she wishes, refuse the vaccine, though personally I think such refusal is rather ignorant.

A health care worker has no right to refuse.

Very simply, said health care worker has no right to a job -- it's a privilege, and one that comes with certain responsibilities. The first of those is the hoary 'do no harm', and a worker with the flu causes harm to the patients that she/he encounters.

Therefore you get vaccinated.

No vaccination? No job. Very simple. If you're a health care worker.

PS: Yes, I received the seasonal influenza vaccine, and when the H1N1 vaccine comes out I'll get that too. If you're in a high-risk group for influenza, please get vaccinated.
Posted by: Steve White   2009-10-17 11:25  

#1  After all, as health care professionals, they argue they're already constantly washing their hands and aren't likely to transmit or contract the flu. AFAIK, there is no evidence for this assertion and a lot of anecdotal evidence against it. Since health personnel move rapidly from person to person, they are the most likely group of all to be vectors for influenza. The mandate was an effort at force protection, to keep health workers on the job and to protect their patients. Of course, the judiciary always knows more than anyone else.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2009-10-17 09:54  

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