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China says its military now equal to the West
2009-09-22
ChinaÂ’s military now possesses most of the sophisticated weapon systems found in the arsenals of developed Western nations, the countryÂ’s defense minister said in comments published Monday.
This is most likely not true, but it is what Chinese people will internalize and believe. It's the reason for the huge military parade on October 1st, the 60th anniversary of PRC's founding. 60 is a round number in Chinese, like 100 for us (12 zodiac houses times 5 element cycles). It means, "we Chinese are strong now, we are not inferior any more, we are SUperior." China doesn't really recognize a relationship between equals, someone is always on top.
Many of ChinaÂ’s systems, including the J-10 fighter jet, latest-generation tanks, navy destroyers, and cruise and intercontinental ballistic missiles, match or are close to matching the capabilities of those in the West, Liang Guanglie said in a rare interview posted on the ministryÂ’s Web site.

“This is an extraordinary achievements that speaks to the level of our military’s modernization and the huge change in our country’s technological strength,” Liang said.

But an analyst said the claim was likely directed at the Chinese public and exaggerated its technological prowess.

The ministerÂ’s remarks come ahead of the countryÂ’s biggest military parade in a decade scheduled for the Oct. 1 National Day in Beijing. That event will showcase much of the countryÂ’s most advanced equipment, the fruit of a booming economy and nearly two decades of annual double digit percentage increases in the defense budget.

Liang said he believed the parade would “display the image of a mighty force, a civilized force, a victorious force.”
It's all about image and face. How will the USA respond to regain the face it's lost by China's successful parade? Sabotage is the answer that would come first to any American, however the Party is clever, knows that wreckers are about, and is taking extreme precautions to make the military parade a flawless success. USA should have an even bigger parade of its own, and invite all of NATO send forces to attend...perhaps that way USA could make a bigger parade, but China would still be best because China is all one people not mongrel mixed people like hip-hop McDonald's USA.
Posted by:gromky

#9  * SAME > A STRONG RUSSIA IS NOT IN CHINA'S BEST STRATEGIC INTERESTS SAVE FOR KEEPING THE US, NATO OUT OF ASIA.

i) STRONG RUSSIA means PERMANENT LOSS OF MONGOLIA + possibly XINJIANG [W,NW China]TO RUSSIAN SPHERE; + OBSTRUCTION OF CHIN'S RISE TO SUPERPOWER STATUS.

ii)WEAK RUSSIA MEANS:

* CHINESE TROOPS CAN MOVE INTO SIBERIA + CENTRAL ASIA [ Pro-Chin "Living Space" in North Asia]
* TOTAL BREAKUP/DISMEMBERMENT OF RUSSIA AS AN SOVEREIGN ORGANIZED ENTITY.
* END OF RUSS-LED REGIONAL, STRATEGIC COMPETITION COMPETITOR AGZ CHINA.
* REDUX OF THREATS TO NORTHERN CHINA e.g. RECOVERY OF MONGOLIA
* ACCESS, CONTROL OF RUSS VAST RESOURCES

* SAME > RUSSIA WILL NOT ACCEPT US MISSLE DEFENSE IN EASTERN EUROPE AS LONG AS THERE IS A US MIL PRESENCE IN OUTER MONGOLIA; + THE LOSS OF THE STRATEGIC HIGH GROUND OF OUTER MONGOLIA TO THE WEST THREATENS THE EXISTENCE OF BOTH RUSSIA AND CHINA.

* SAME > AFGHAN INSURGENCY AND US MISSLE DEFENSE IN EASTERN EUROPE IS COVER FOR US STRATEGIC IMPERIALISM IN EURASIA: PAYMENT OF US GLOBAL DEBT BURDENS. ISOLATION OF RUSSIA AND CHINA
[breakup into multiple weak states].
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2009-09-22 20:15  

#8  WMF > NZ "SCOOP" NEWS: CHINA TO BUILD REGIONAL INTELLIGENCE, MISSLE MONITORING STATIONS IN THE PACIFIC OCEAN [South Pacific = mostly Micronesia, Polyn islands.]TO WATCH THE US MILITARY AND SUPPORT POWER PROJECTION. CHIN-LED LOCAL, REGIO ECONOMIC DEV FOLLOWED BY MILITARY VENTURES. E.g. The CHIN-built Station on KIRIBATI can easly recce the US ARMY MISSLE TEST RANGE-BASE AT KWAJALEIN, MARSHALL ISLANDS.
Posted by: JosephMendiola   2009-09-22 19:57  

#7  I think they have to say these obvious (to outsiders) untruths. The average Chinese knows that huge sums have been spent on the military. He also knows that corruption is rife in the military. If there's nothing to show for the huge expenditures, then it's just another black mark on the government's record - another blot to which would-be insurrectionists can point.
Posted by: Zhang Fei   2009-09-22 15:22  

#6  well, if they're all in one location....fixing that should be simple.

“display the image of a mighty force, a civilized force, a victorious force.”
-I think you'd actually have to fight someone to be able to say that, but I digress.
Posted by: Broadhead6   2009-09-22 13:20  

#5  Take the West and give the points.
Posted by: Hellfish   2009-09-22 12:22  

#4  What they lack of course are the salty veterans of plenty of conflict we have been in for the past 8 years.

Oh, and their equipment is crap.
Posted by: newc   2009-09-22 10:41  

#3  old military proverb - a unit ready for parade is not ready for combat. a unit ready for combat is not ready for parade.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2009-09-22 08:57  

#2  Moral to the material...
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2009-09-22 01:34  

#1  Begging to differ, but Chinese generally don't "exaggerate" when it comes to their national security.

Chinese know as well as anyone force correlations isn't just a "dick contest."

Even if the correlations don't match up, if the Chinese say they can match up well with any western nation, they usually have good cause for saying so.

No wonder the "analyst" was an unnamed source.
Posted by: badanov   2009-09-22 00:14  

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